New Forum - The Final Word
#16
Fucken excellent effort guys. I have buggered it though, can't get into it, log on, reckons my user name doesn't match my login details.
To err is human, to really f*** things up takes a computer.


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#17
G'day
Yep if you clever blokes reckon it is broke, then whatever it takes to fix...and a discussion at Jindabyne would be an appropriate place and time...and I can't register either, but that's a minor prob
Regards
kevin
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#18
ok - was going to just stay out of it - however there are some valid points here so I'll answer them best I can.

Firstly - with the test forum everyone has the same default password - either way - if we move myself & DJ would have to reimport anyway before the cut over - so you can log in using your old user name. So you can really do anything you want with the test forum - default password is haya13 for all user names.

Also before I go on - with the move I think myself & dj would expect the current people to look after it as we will tech them how - but also this is a passion of mine - IT & Computers & even tho its my work - for the club I am willing to do this - I do it for my gaming guilds & other hobbies I am in to. (Also I love doing migrations IT wise from one system to another - most of my job is working out how to do that)

Now to just answer & explain somethings.....

Quote:The current board has been operational for quite some years now. It certainly aint the best or the fanciest but does the job and is by now well known and linked elsewhere in many places.

Links - links are controlled by a thing called DNS (Dynamic Naming Server) What it does is turn a computer network address (Numeric ie: 192.168.1.50) to a name - so www.hayabusaclub.com.au can really mean 203.160.20.80 on a computer network - with the change over I can request that the internet naming servers change the numeric address to what ever server we are going to use - thus all links will not "break" but point back to the servers we are using - this means links & www names we can keep if we want & have them point to new servers - thus any concers with links are gone.

Cost:
This has been covered pretty well - DJ & Myself have made sure the bandwidth will be there - the 70 bucks a year does cover it - over time the cost of running forums & websites has dropped alot. With the new forums (While its not done yet) we can make up our own welcome page as well - people that want adverts on the club can have them - we can do all of this because it would be under our control. So its cheaper & easier.

Technical:
on the ezboard VS PhP & other forums - Many companys, online clubs & gaming guilds have all moved away from the likes of fully hosted systems. Reasons for this including owner ship of the data, control of it, cost & recovering. A major part of my work is DR (disaster recovery) for major company systems that are worth millions & millions. have a look at the first post made by rocket when ezboard crashed out:
Quote:Ok ,ive started this thread again as i cannot reply in the other one as the board is f****d.I will be there tonight to personally present DJ with his award.Now bend over Pete and ill show you where it goes

The way PhP works means the backups are automated & emails sent to those who look after it to make sure they happen - the recovery is something that many of us in the club can do & help with - & from anywhere in the world - we dont have to be here in Melbourne.

But Its Not Broken???

Well - while the simple posting functions may work here - we can not run a calender for our rides, from the forum here you can't do en-mass post deletes, edits or mails outs for detail updates. Its hard to track our members, if someone posted something helpful about the busa in the last week or two - you MIGHT find it - with the new one its EASY to search & find infomation, To find your way around the forum, post topics, add pictures, links - all more easy.

Universal:
??? ok WTF? here it is - the new forums data is kept in a universal format - its called SQL & its used by all sorts of software - Microsoft & many others. Because its used so widely & not just on the net but in companys as well - its easy to find people to work on it & its EASY to learn as well!! This means if we move never again will the club have to worry about losing ANY data - all the topics with info on how to do set mods, how to fix set problems, tips, tyres chat, pictures of our lost loves, pictures & memorys of trips together & people we have met - all of it safe & not at the mercy of ezboard!

I am not trying to sell it - I am just trying to help some understand where we are coming from. While the forum here may not look broken - there are somethings that just would make it a hell of a lot better.

Also think about this - how does it look to someone new? I know of someone recently that joined who had to ask me how to post??? It looks old & out dated. With the new one we can refresh it all our selfs, make it look as good as we want & provide different looks for everyone to choose suited to their mood.

So have a think about it more after reading this - if you have questions email me @ Christian.Wilke@avivagroup.com.au or razz0r@internode.on.net "Busa riders always count in three's.... 100, 200, 300"

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#19
Thx Raz for covering many a point. I have a question of bandwidth limit. From the statistics I raised above showing around 7 gigs per month, somehow I dont think just $70 per year would cover that, so my question is how much would a reliable and perhaps fast server charge for that kind of bandwidth demand?
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#20
exactly
and here is another i just setup.
it looks almost the same as what we have but does it all
calendar
image upload from desktop
data backup
and more more more.
and very simple to use
link removed to avoid confusion Cheers,
Pete




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Arlo Guthrie 1968Edited by: Djpete  at: 7/1/07 14:20
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#21
100gig for ya here
hosting.webcity.com.au/compare.php
i dont think we use that much Volvi
get away with pro pack 2 here no worries
but for another 4 bucks a month and still
$250 cheaper than current I wouldn't complain
lol Cheers,
Pete




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"I don't want a pickle,
I just wanna ride my motorsickle."
Arlo Guthrie 1968Edited by: Djpete  at: 5/1/07 17:26
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#22
I'd like to complain
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#23
Just had a call from "God".
Volvi is very keen to move across to a cheaper, more user friendly and effecient Forum with a Home page and www address as well.
We can do all this for less than $180 a yr saving hundreds of dollars.
It will mean that we will be in control of our own data and be able to change software/layout etc if and when we wish.

I will be working with Raz and a few others who have offered support and we aim to have something within a few months.

I guarentee you this, we will not move anyware if there are not huge benefits and will not go in half baked.
There will be a transition period like anything else new but it WILL be worth it.

I'de also like to point out that once setup Volvi, Richard and whoever else is in on the admin side will do as they always have done...I or Raz are after no financial gain out of this whole episode whatsoever.
We both (along with others) want to improve what we have while at the same time keeping the running side of it SIMPLE and cost effective.

To those who are sceptics I hope 3 months down the track you reconsider and re evaluate the new options and benefits and try to keep an open mind.


Thanks to all for your input.

Now we can get some real work done..lol

Long live the Australian Hayabusa Club!!
Cheers,
Pete




Z Web World
Mobile Dj, Web Design,Photography, Bullshit Artist!

"I don't want a pickle,
I just wanna ride my motorsickle."
Arlo Guthrie 1968
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#24
looking at the rates of webcity confirmed it for me that we have to make the move. to be paying almost $400 US dollars every year and with limited advantages and no revenue seems absolutely absurd. Not to mention theyre bussiness needs of putting up theyre prices every so often, and no 100% guarentee of retaining data. Renewal isnt far off either.

So Im all for the move, by creating a web page with advertising space for vendors to create some revenue to keep the ongoing board expenses covered. We have no desire for support through t shirts thats best left to the free market with competition to get best value for members. The web page will have a link to our forum as well as features of the club. There is much that can be included on a webpage that doesnt have to appear in the chat site.

Ezboard has served as reasonably well over the years besides that 1 huge fukup with losing plenty valued data. But its time we moved forward. And with this impending move I am hoping that we will secure the future of the club which has always been my main concern. I have said it before and will say it again I have absolutly no financial interests in the club not in the past and not in the future. My only concern has always been securing it for the future in the interests of all its members and future members to come.

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#25
Quote:US dollars
faaaaaaaaaaark i didnt know it ws us dollars! Cheers,
Pete




Z Web World
Mobile Dj, Web Design,Photography, Bullshit Artist!

"I don't want a pickle,
I just wanna ride my motorsickle."
Arlo Guthrie 1968
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#26
I love this board and spend a lot of time on here especially when I'm away for work it's a way of keeping up to date with whats going on and keeping in contact with the friends I've made here.

DJ, Volvi and others - do whatever needs to be done and I'll follow along hapily.

A huge thanks to everyone involved for providing the site in the first place Bruce
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#27
+1 Bruce.


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#28
Quote:I love this board and spend a lot of time on here especially when I'm away for work it's a way of keeping up to date with whats going on and keeping in contact with the friends I've made here.
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#29
So.... Money talks and bullshit walks.....

About f*&^ing time ladies
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#30
As stated in a previous forum....

1) DJ gets my vote by proxy. I don't know enough to be able to understand and analyse the technical aspects.

2) If it takes money, I'm in. Tell me how much and where to send the cheque.

3) I know I've said it before and its been said by many over the years - but I really do appreciate the efforts of all those members who keep the ship afloat. This board means a lot to many of us and your efforts make it all possible. Thankyou.

I think the advertising revenue idea is great. If we make more than we need, we can either start supporting a charity, use the excess for a good cause, provide an emergency fund for members in genuine need (the generosity of members in providing support for DirtBags family comes to mind) or maybe to secure a benefit for the members. However... it does introduce a new aspect to the existence of the board - a potential taxable income status. We might have to look at either keeping books or registering as a not for profit social club. Then again, we might be able to stay under the radar - I'm not sure. If members would like me to go check this out I'm happy to do so and report back. Let me know. The older I get, the better I was. Regards.... Rob
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