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09-01-2008, 10:04pm
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stuart_tlr1000 Wrote:kawasuki Wrote:stuart_tlr1000 Wrote:love to stir every one here knows busa fastest bike out i know i spend to much time on utube
Dont worry mate we ahve a TLR (when finnished ) that would kick the Busa and the 1098R arse's all round the road , track anywere.
It will be approx 150kgs Wet,around 175 rwhp and approx 110ftlbs.
would love to see some pics of that
Engine Suzuki VTwin bored and stroked to 1150cc
Race Cams
SP2 throttle boddies
Kevlar tank
Titanium nuts and bolts ,axles blah blah etc
carbon wheels
tripple clamps
Ohlins rear shock One Off made for this bike + Super Bike forks pictured
Ceramic rotors
Brembo mono calipers ,brake cyl and clutch
Arh the list goes on, should be finnished end of year.
Well its not finnished but i will post whatsgoing on it
Frame from UK
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Hi,
All the investment to make a TL and here we can buy a stock busa and disappear ... Poof.
Now what happens when we mod our Busa's ... I think one guy got some 685+ BHP from a Hayabusa......and there is a company in California who has developed a race ready busa with 220+ Bhp and with Updated Suspension, Wheel and Brake Package (This was done in 04 and on the Gen 1).
Its again all about the Rider and a bit less about the Bike. If both the Riders are good then the Bike Matters. Anyway I dont do Street racing.....;)
Cheers,
Bill
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bgaheer Wrote:Hi,
All the investment to make a TL and here we can buy a stock busa and disappear ... Poof.
Now what happens when we mod our Busa's ... I think one guy got some 685+ BHP from a Hayabusa......and there is a company in California who has developed a race ready busa with 220+ Bhp and with Updated Suspension, Wheel and Brake Package (This was done in 04 and on the Gen 1).
Its again all about the Rider and a bit less about the Bike. If both the Riders are good then the Bike Matters. Anyway I dont do Street racing.....;)
Cheers,
Bill
This is not for the drags Bill , this is a track (race) bike and know matter what u do with a busa it wont catch this little baby around any track (with the rider on similar style).
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I look in the mirrors after about a hundred or two metres, but then its a '99er.
If the 99er did that to them,Imagine what an 05 would have done to'em
Woman,where's my wallet?
And whats for tea?
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kawasuki Wrote:xocet Wrote:kawasuki Wrote:stuart_tlr1000 Wrote:love to stir every one here knows busa fastest bike out i know i spend to much time on utube
Dont worry mate we ahve a TLR (when finnished ) that would kick the Busa and the 1098R arse's all round the road , track anywere.
It will be approx 150kgs Wet,around 175 rwhp and approx 110ftlbs.
  Ohh man. I've only just stopped laughing. That has got to be the joke of the year, and we're not even half way through January. I was just reading in my recently bought bike mag "The Real Deal, Actual Factual, No Bull, Fair Dinkum, Honest Truth on Two Boots." that Suzuki are going to enter WSBK with the TLR and all the other manufacturers are so scared of this incredible bike they've pulled out and decided to concentrate on the peewee 50 cup.
Can't wait 'til Ducati bring out the peewee 50R. Now that would have some serious mumbo.....
What joke are u talking about, i didnt see anyone throw any funnies ???? 
All right, I'll have a think.
Ducati have brought all their WSBK knowledge together to build the 1098R. Your TLR project comes from a company with limited success in WSBK and belief that in-line fours are better than v-twins, for track or straight line speed.
The 1098R delivers (claimed) 180 hp with almost 200 hp available in race ready trim. The TLR project is hoping for 175 RWHP. To achieve this you're going with 1150 cc bored out donk. The 1098R is 1198cc. Further, the KTM RC-8 is about 1150cc and did not achieve it's hoped for power output. Don't get me started on the 1125 Buell heap.
The 1098R is 165kg dry with further weight reduction possible with the race kit (carbon fibre zorsts etc). The TLR is hoping for 150kg wet? Maybe if you're dropping the engine into a RGV 250 frame. The 1098R can also have further reduced weight with carbon fibre panels as extras. Performance here may be in your bag for the final weight figure, but I bet the 1098R is far more rigid than the TLR project bike.
The biggest problem you've got is a thing described by words like holistic and synergy. The TLR project bike is a bitsa all kinds of stuff not designed for the bike. To remedy handling issues you'll no doubt use a lot of hydraulic componentry. The Ducati company have designed their 1098R from scratch, the 1098 and 1098S being pre-1098R prod bikes. To remedy handling difficulties at the most extreme level they've used dampers etc. but have designed the bike for those dampers. Further, the 1098R uses traction control in the ECU with eight different profiles to be available by the rider while riding.
Kawasuki, you've modded you're own busa and heaps of other peoples bikes. Surely you do realise that whilst the TLR project bike sounds great and will probably whip a lot of v-twins around, it won't do over a 1098R.
the project was started before the 1098 was conceived and not designed to race a ducati.My brother had no licence or outlet to flex his interest in bikes.Couple that with easyriders access to great parts worldwide and the concept was born.Its a showcase of premium parts and rest assured it will be very light.i wouldn,t call terry shephards frame ill thought out.the weight balance,frame flex,engine position,swingarm pivot point and strength are all a proven package.It may take a long time to get sorted but like all motorcyclist often the journey is where the joy is,not just the destination.The frame is designed to take a ducati motor if the option arose.So its not a suzuki any more than a cagiva is.
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