"Arrive home safely" Great words. There are two diff types of riding, Track and Road. Both require two very different types of riding. In my early 20's back in Liverpool, UK, I worked for a company who supplied my bike and uniform. They trained me extensively in road riding. They called it the defensive, progressive (not aggresive) riding mode. We were taught to expect the unexpected and be prepared for car drivers and pedestrians to attack you from all angles. Because "they" just dont think you have to think for them, bikes are a dangerous game but one I'd never give away. I personally expect every car, bus, 4x4, pedestrian to potentially have a go at me. Be progressive, but put the word defensive before it, especially during the silly season on our roads.
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DEE
The problem isnt the sex its the Vehicle and where its used.
If you drive a small bus you have to do a course and get a licence code, if you choose to drive an ambulance you also have to do a special course to get a liscence.
Why is it people can drive a vehicle which is not adaptered specifically or city roads, 2 to 3 times the weight , they take longer too stop , wider to turn and slower to speed up , so they handle like a tank and they are being driven around be people who have had no extra training in driving one.
Any idiot can drive a vehicle , push the axcelarator and steer it , but to be able to REALLY DRIVE A VEHICLE is a differant thing all together.
Until someone withing the goverment gets some balls about themselves and makes these things a differant license code then accidents like this will happen and continue to happen.
( not taking any accountability aware from riders , but my views on 4x4's )
cheers
Doc
It is understood the woman driver if the car was reaching for a cigarette and did not see the motorcyclist.
f*&^ing Typical!
It's just as dangerous (If not more) riding the pushie around in the mornings!
It's either reaching for a cigarette (as above) putting make up on, texing, fiddling with the stereo/ipod/mobile phone.......
Arseholes. THE END
Dfensive driving, particularly on a bike is an absolute must. Find someone local and do a course. Or talk to those who've had a bit of training like above.
Assume the worst can happen and might.
make sure you have an escape route.
Don't commit to something where there's no alternative.
How often have you been on a road ride and have someone go around a corner, right on the limit? No account of the fact there may be a dead roo on the road, or a pot hole etc. You only have to be around walking speed on the dirt verge to fall off.
Track days, drag racing are the ways to lessen the risk and probably live longer.
We've had a few accidents here this year with bikes, but I hate to say it, most are the riders fault. Single vehicle, hitting guard rails. Overtaking and hit a centre median strip, lost control on a corner...the list goes on. Sure, something like the start of the thread is totally unacceptable, male or female driver, 2WD or 4WD (oh, I have a Suzuki Grand Vitara, and a Golf GTI and the Busa!)
Lets all be here after Xmas to start slagging off at one another and sledging eh?
Copper/Silver are the best too!
Doc,
I am going to Agree and Disagree with you at the same time.
Yes I do agree that there should be a special Lic for some 4x4's, being Patrols, Landcruisers and Bigger.
I Disagree with the comment on handling like a tank, I own a Landcruiser and the 250 4x4, both of which I could beat most people of the mark. As for stopping, both of mine stop on a dime unless of course I have horses Loaded and then I wont stop hard and drop horses on the deck. (If I really have to stop quick both will without a problem). Now the Wider to turn, the cruiser is no wider to turn than let say a comodore, the 250 on the other hand this is a truck and a long wheel base so yes it is wider to turn.
Perhaps your conclusions on 4x4 handling like tanks have come from real early models and if that is the case I can't comment on how they handle.
GDYUP
As I said before that must be true because that is what one reporter has written.
I can tell you have great respect for women just be the way you have written "Its" and I am sure you have never had a problem with a male driver reaching for a cigarette etc etc.
As for riding a pushie on the road, why should you have any rights, you dont pay Rego/Insurance etc.
Cheers Dee
I tell ya what brings sweat to my brow. A P plater in a v8 with all his mates, thinks he is skaifey. Going down a dual and he sits in the blind spot. Everytime you go faster or back off he thinks it is some sort of pepsi challenge to test his manouvering capabilites. I have been hit by one, didn't even see him coming. Not all bad, upgraded to the busa. Best near death that I ever had. My point is that it isn't the vehicle, it is how people drive them. A skateboard is diabolical in the wrong hands.
Interesting topic here. This morning Mr Tony and I were riding to work and saw
1. young lady in a toyota swift or whatever texting
2. gentleman in charge of a heavy vehicle on the mobile
3. young man in a 4x4 on the phone
4. young man in a celica driving with his knees
On the way home today
1. Young lady texting
2. Mother trying to smack one of her kids in the back seat while driving (..wtf)
3. More mature driver doing 50 in a 70 area
4. Couple arguing
I have to ride in on my own on Monday and Tuesday (Monday statistically speaking is a bad day to be on the road) and every virgin I can get my hands on will be sacrificed to the God of Safe Travelling. Failing that I will have to rely on my road sense and skill and my ride like I am invisible tactic. Greetings
Trix
There is nothing like a bee in your helmet to test your reflexs and nerves
Dee
I served 10 1/2 years in the army and we had to have differant codes for differant vehicles, including 4x4 and 6x4
every vehicle has differant idiosyncracys and 4X4's have them more than normal cars.
When I meant handle like a tank i didnt really explain it properly .
with power steering , better set ups , 4X4's can handle like cars , but its there size , and bulkyness that is more the issue.
with infastructure in citys not growing and expanding for road users and the extra vehicles roads are becoming smaller and parking spaces tighter etc etc.
large 4X4 do have there purpose , as you do with towing horse floats , country axcess, work vehicles etc etc , they are ideal for that situation.
but city wankers purchase them for looks or keeping with the jones than for a purpose.
range rovers in toorak are a perfect example, everyone buys cars to suit a purpose,you wouldnt buy a toyota corrolla to tow a horse float.
its like these tossers that buy ferrari's, its just look at me car , there is no where that you can dial it out or use it, i can hear the bussa blokes twitching in there seat saying well these things do 300 same thing , well no its not .....why because the bussa isnt $150,000 +.
there are wankers in every type of car , my latest tossers have been subaru foresters of late, saw two a few days ago on my way up to melton and was nearly cleaned up by both.
the rice boys dont worry me , i dont mind a good drag at the lights and it ends pretty quick , and i especially like when they get to the next lights and i ask them if my brake light is working
anyway , just thought i would explain it a bit better , but i am a opinionated prick as well so no doubt it will upset someone
travel safe all , remember "EVERYONE ON THE ROAD IS OUT TO KILL YOU " If you remember that you will stay alive.
cheers
Doc
Doc,
Ok we are both on the same wave length then.
Well that makes two of us that are opinonated and I dont see that as a bad thing.
Cheers Dee
women shouldn;t be in anything, but the kitchen and the bedroom. . then this shit wouldn;t happen
Cool I am up for that so long as I dont have to cook or clean
Cheers Dee
too bad Mechanix, its been a while since you didn't get a bite
lol.. now my friends and I who live in the centre of the cbd are city wankers because we live in the city and either had or have 4x4s.. I'm extra special because I bought my second over powered bike that can tripple the speed limit and what for when I live next to Swanston street walk.. Im a double wanker... my gf just got her bike and car learners. While on her L's she drove the 4x4.. that makes her a women driver in the city, on her L's driving a 4x4 city wanker..
What does Pauline Hanson think about it is what i want to know.
Just because it looks clean in the city on Monday, doesnt mean it wasnt used on Sunday
but my car was a soft top.. is that better than a tin lid ?
Edited by: AzaVic at: 7/12/06 22:41
Aza i asked Pauline yep she agread with ya your a wanker it dosent matter how much you clean your 4x4 you can still tell if it has not touched dirt now go and wash the thing bringing all that dirt in to the clean streets of melbourne what was you thinking THE WARRIOR
REGARDS ROD
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