New shock in Ozz
#16
Just remember that OEM gear is a "just past test" for all bikes and cars, relitive to cost of said product. U wouldnt see a crumbledoor with full Koni suspension ,, reason, cost , but the gear on it will just suffice when driven at all legal road speeds, but i reckon most with a bike would be inclined to give it some mumbo on a few occasions hence i would prefer a better suspension and brake packeage.
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#17
Good sales pitch Ray.
I know you are gonna be selling great shocks for those that need to go that way but a stock shockie on a Hayabusa can cope with the speed the bike is capable of. That is why they are so stable at high speed and how the bike got its reputation.
In fact there are very few "SPORTS bikes" on the market that don't have sufficient shockies for whatever you throw at them on the road.

I bet there are shitloads of high mileage busas still running around, that have been "stretched" by their owners, with perfectly good shocks fitted.
Of course it is always good to have options available for a replacement if you need one.
"If time catches up with you. You're going too slow!"
Regards BUSGO
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#18
Ray (Busgo) I agree with you to a certain extent mate. The stock suspension is OK and thats all. It allows the bike to handle relatively well and will handle most things thrown at it. To compare the stock suspension to an Ohlins or any other reputable brand of aftermarket shock is rediculous.

Have you ever ridden a K8 with an Ohlins shock? The difference in everyday riding is huge, way more compliant over bumps, handles better in the corners and gives the rider much better feel of what the tyres are doing.

I understand your one eyed defence of the standard bike - it is a good bike, but your continual putting down of quality aftermarket products is narrow minded. You are an admin on this site and your opinion could be taken as gospel by those that dont know better so please be careful with what you say on an open forum.

My experience as an owner of a K8 busa that is fitted with an Ohlins shock is that the Ohlins is FAR superior to the stock unit.

I am not having a go at you or trying to be offensive mate just stating that unless you have ridden a K8 with any of these arftermarket components fitted then you are not qualified to comment on their effectiveness.

Peace manUndecided
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#19
I have an aftermarket Elka rear shock on my 99er (which I got off Easyrider) and I find it's much better than the stock. Yes, the stock will do, but it tends to get much more wobbly around a bend at higher speed. The Elka shock I have has (4) adjustments so I just stiffen it up a little and it seems to stick better on the track days, or loosen it up a little and get better grip on the open road.

I feel the "Good sales pitch Ray" is unwarranted and I feel Kawasuki is doing more than just a sales pitch. He's letting Busa riders know about what's out there... and most of us are happy to hear it Clap.

On a personal note Busgo, and I have this dig at you because we joined the club at the same time, so I've known you for a while...

...wasn't it you that said the 99 Busa didn't have any brake issues and stock brake lines were good enough... then went on to get braided lines years later, only to sing their praises??? Lol3
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#20
Seems we are hearing a lot from the track day guys.
Yes there are a few of you who buy the aftermarket stuff to improve your experience.
But the vast majority of riders stick to the stock stuff and are quite happy with it.

Yes, Pan, I did buy some HEL brake lines for the 99 busa when it was 5 years old and due for line replacments.
They were cheaper than stock and in my opinion did improve the braking by eliminating fade and giving better feel.
The stock ones were still quite well up to the job for road riding though.

Bruce, When have I ever "put down" aftermarket products?
Never, I simply state that for day to day road riding the stock bike is great.

My position as an Admin on the site gives me no more right to an opinion than any other member.
I fully support Ray and his sales campaigns, but trying to say that the OEM material is substandard for a road bike is not correct and the vast numbers of riders who leave their bikes in basically stock form are testament to that statement.

Aftermarket gear is excellent for replacing worn out or life limited parts because it gives everyone a choice rather than buying stock all the time. Certainly in a lot of cases the aftermarket gear is better but in just as many cases, the stuff is not and buyers find out the hard way.
I'm talking mainly about Bling bits here rather than the practical stuff, however, there are lots of brake rotors on the market that are outright dangerous compared to the OEM ones.

As I have said, I am sure that these new shockies will be a great opportunity for track day riders who need the best that is available. I have not "Put them down" in any way.
"If time catches up with you. You're going too slow!"
Regards BUSGO
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#21
WtfNow I'm just confused.
Which way do I go?
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#22
01busa Wrote:WtfNow I'm just confused.
Which way do I go?

U just come and see uncle Kawasuki I will put your wallet,,, AhhRR I mean your mind at ease.
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#23
01busa Wrote:WtfNow I'm just confused.
Which way do I go?


Go Turbo.......Why do 200kph in 400m when you can go 300kph Pi_tongue
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#24
Leonard the idea mate is not to frighten the shit out of the non turbo boys mate. They may regress. Bump
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#25
Its ironic a snail on the front of your bike makes you go faster.Lol3I agree you can,t judge what you,ve never had.All turbos on biikes are crapLol3
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#26
pan Wrote:I have an aftermarket Elka rear shock on my 99er (which I got off Easyrider) and I find it's much better than the stock. Yes, the stock will do, but it tends to get much more wobbly around a bend at higher speed. The Elka shock I have has (4) adjustments so I just stiffen it up a little and it seems to stick better on the track days, or loosen it up a little and get better grip on the open road.

I feel the "Good sales pitch Ray" is unwarranted and I feel Kawasuki is doing more than just a sales pitch. He's letting Busa riders know about what's out there... and most of us are happy to hear it Clap.

On a personal note Busgo, and I have this dig at you because we joined the club at the same time, so I've known you for a while...

...wasn't it you that said the 99 Busa didn't have any brake issues and stock brake lines were good enough... then went on to get braided lines years later, only to sing their praises??? Lol3

I dont know anything about shocks.
But i can tell you,the standard busa brakes, are SHITHOUSE.
An in my opinion, ARENT up to the job the standard bike
is capable of. Eg washing speed off with ease.
I had an 06 gsxr 1000 for 2 odd weeks.
An it braked 10 times better than my busa did.
An my busa was new at the time mind you.
So you cant say wear an tear..
I wont say what speeds,but the gsxr 2 finger braking
was more than enough.
The busa , a handfull an then some.
' 2 finger stoppies ' like one salesman said MY Showback

Im talking about the gen 1 busa mind you.
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#27
Went for a spin on dads bike with the new shock on it.Feels really good so far.It was setup for dad and was a little firm for me but felt really planted and not harsh.Had to give the freshened motor a squirt and she bolts hard from 3000 up now.Piped gen2 grunt in a 30kg lighter package.Pi_thumbsupIts off to dyno daves on tuesday for a tune and power run to confirm seat of the pants feel that leonard put a little magic into each cylinder.
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#28
Look fellars i can make your stop and ride at least 50% BETTER THAN A STOCKY at a reasonable cost.
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#29
kawasuki Wrote:Look fellars i can make your stop and ride at least 50% BETTER THAN A STOCKY at a reasonable cost.

How much Ray.....when can you deliver. Money talks bullshit walks
Cheers Taub
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#30
Are you waiting on rotors.Lol3
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