After getting off the vfr i,ve never been happy with how a busa turns at low speed.The back tyre wants to stay upright and the front wheel wants to flop in,unless you keep pressure on the inside arm.A 180/55 makes this much better but you have slightly less rubber on the road.I have the answer.I,ve just fitted a 190/640 from bridgestone.Its about 10mm taller so lifts the back only 5mm up.The tyre is alot pointier with lots of rubber on the side of the tyre and steers very similar to a 180/55. Now the $64000 question is what model tyre is it?? Glenn the Spa Man, son of kawasuki from easyrider imports<i></i>
The only referance I can find say's it is a slick?
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Well done.A medium compound with a tread pattern cut into it.So far so good with cold grip. Glenn the Spa Man, son of kawasuki from easyrider imports<i></i>
I dont think a cut slick is the answer for a road bike, it wont like all those heat cycles.
On the other hand if you are using them for ride days well that is a differant matter I suppose.
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Must be somebodys shout, $64000 has just changed hands! <i></i>
I ran a 180/55 on my stocko for a while and I wouldnt advise, bike turned nice and quick but useless under power with the small contact patch, spun up everywhere.
What about a 190/55 which raises the bike 15mm, most of the manufacturers are doing them. Bridgestones in the 002, Pirelli's Dragon Super Corsa Pro or even Dunlop's Sport Max GP has a 190/60 worth 30mm, all with fairly pointy profiles.
Bridgestone 002
Dragon Supercorsa Pro
Dunlop Sportmax GP
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I stuck a new Viper on the Bus today. Took a Diablo Corsa off, not as grippy as the Viper, good wear though. The Viper just inspires confidence.
Got a price on a new 190/50/17 Viper sport. $270 fitted. Gotta be happy with that.
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Update on cut slick for the road.Great grip in the dry,Average to good in the wet.Squared off in less than 2000km though.Single compound means poor for ANY highway work.Turned in nice though.Saw ron balls tuning had 190/55 supercorsa sc2 on.Thats my next tyre.For a supersport tyre imho pirellis are best for cold and wet grip.My 002 front is a great dry weather tyre but was struggling in the wet.I can,t get 190/55 002,s anyway.The slick had great construction though as i got good feel for the rear tyre in the slipperyest sections of road.Did i mention the amount of road kill we dodged? <i></i>
Speaking of race tyres, a mate gave me a new D208F RR that I will be fitting soon. It should be fun to have something soft on the front for a change although I dont expect it to last more than 2 or 3000 k's
I know this is not really suited to the busa but what the hell it's free
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spamanglenn - can I suggest - hang off it more (If you dont already that is) was reading your top post - also ya - try to corsa's great tyre's "Busa riders always count in three's.... 100, 200, 300"
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The better balanced the bike the less you have to hang off.I rode a stockie from kiandra to the cabramurra turn off.Ive come a long way from that(I had to hang off alot more than mine,it wanted to stand up all the time).The stock busa hated downhill righthanders.Dads still turns better than mine though,which is frustrating.Once you know how good something can be,you expect nothing less.Getting the busa to go where you want it to with minimal effort is one of the most important aims I have for the bike. <i></i>
I know what your talking about with the turn in for tight corners - I had the same issue. Wanna know what it was??
Riding position, not the bike or anything else.
but thats a personal thing. for me sliding my arse to the back of the seat meant evening out the weight a little - increase my hang off rate & I am keeping with super light bikes in tight corners with no worrys ;)
just food for thought
as to why you find your old mans better?????
could be any of the following:
tyres, tyre pressure, spring setup, high rear? lower rear? different in weight between you maybe? I have nfi at the end of the day tho "Busa riders always count in three's.... 100, 200, 300"
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I believe from personal experience a right hand turn deep or a sweeper causes me more difficulties then were it to be a left one. I believe (unconfirmed) its something in the brain, its a mind thing, doing a right turn one is often exposed to far greater dangers then the left. Like gravel, drop down the side of mountain, brushes etc. ie if you overshoot a right your in trouble. But a left turn or sweeper at worst your taking more road room and perhaps entering the oncoming lane, when empty is generally fine. So I believe its a mental thing, till one trains oneself to overcome it.
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oh also forgot this part
Quote:better balanced the bike the less you have to hang off
I am not so sure about that - I use the hang off in theory of getting my weight lower on the inside & then dont have to lean the bike over that much - just get the weight there ;)
(Disclaimer: I THINK... thats how it worked last time I checked - anyone care to correct me? ) "Busa riders always count in three's.... 100, 200, 300"
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How a bike steers has a lot to do with where the weight is on a bike.Put 2 kids in a tandem stroller(heavy one at the front) and steer it.Then put the lighter kid at the front and steer it.The pram is still the same total weight yet much easier to steer with the lighter kid up front.Kawasuki has a 5kg lighter kevlar tank and carbon wheels.Thats weight off the front of the bike thats immediatly noticeable in how the bike holds a given cornering line.ride height,wheelbase etc are all the same.Sometimes though you have to ride a standard busa to remind yourself your heading in the right direction.Carbon tank helps with the twisties but makes the bike wheelie a lot easier though. Glenn the Spa Man, son of kawasuki from easyrider imports<i></i>
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