I am genuinely dumbfounded. I have not attacked anyone in my post. What I did Les, was to offer a suggestion that you let the Les/Pete thing go. He can no longer come here but still you keep up your barrage of crap, however veiled you try to make it. And as for balance, I gave 2 examples showing both sides. I fear Les your idea of balance means agreeing with you, which I would easily do if ever you were right.
If anyone is on the attack here it is you. Attacking me for presenting an honest, accurate account of personal experiences that just happen to contradict you. Which is no doubt your problem.
Regardless of my friendship with Peter, if he was wrong about anything I would be the first person to stand up and say so. And I sure as hell don't take my bike to him just because he's a friend. In fact I usually try to avoid doing business with friends, but I happen to trust his work. And that's good enough for me.
And my suggestion that you let it go is probably only what most other readers of this board would like to say except they don't for fear of more of your retaliatory drivel.
So at the risk of sounding one-sided, which I'm not, and at the risk of sounding like I'm attacking you, blow it out your exhaust. Get over it you little man.
gazza, in case you have difficulty comprehending what is a relatively simple concept, i will repeat it for you, KEEP your 'suggestions' to youself, i am not interested!!!!
AND "drivel" (a very apt description of your nonsensical ongoing useless self righteous rhetoric) was a word created for someone such as you,,
so, to quote a well rounded phrase, PISS OFF DRONE!!!
Les, you crack me up. You and your tiny mind. A pity this board won't let me tell you to get F.U.C.K.E.D.
Dear Volvo,
As much as I hate to use the discussion board for this kind of crap, you leave me no alternative. Until now I have remained impartial to the wars of words. In fact, I have made conscious efforts to extend my good will to you and your minions. Maybe you should read the email that I PERSONALLY sent to Richard. I cannot sit back and ignore your personal attack on myself, which you obviously wish all to see. You and your sycophants spend far too much time gossiping and bitching, when you should be using the board for it’s purpose.
You say that I consider you my "enemy"? I have never done or said anything that would make you believe this…until now. This was obviously a figment of your limited imagination.
You apparently have no sense of humour and a surplus of time, which aggravates your paranoia. Maybe you should take up needlework or throw a tupperware party to renew interest in your dull life.
Your definition of "steal" does seem to differ to that of most modern dictionaries. To get technical, yes the names are similar. May I remind you of what "your" club is called…look to the top of the page. I also bear witness to a discussion relating to the T-shirt proposal, which was to read, "The Australian Hayabusa Owners Club". Whatever variations you have since conjured up, is not my concern. We live in Australia and happen to own Hayabusas, so there is probably a good chance that a club name will feature these three key-words. A name is as good as the credibility it has and deserves, of which you my little fellow have none. Maybe if you had some initiative, you would have registered a domain name etc. in the hope that someone may take you seriously, although I doubt it. Hey I’ve got a new one for you…how about "The Fat Ugly Enlightenment Club of Bentleigh". "All hail president Volvo!"
The whole reason our club formed is because of your incompetence. It that not clear yet? We have 7 founding members originating from "your" club, which is more than just a coincidence…wouldn’t you say? Our members aren’t subjected to the will of one person (who happens to an idiot).
Control over our discussion board does not lie with one person. There are several mediators who have that ability to ban/unban at their discretion, which is usually done for a good reason. Your hypocrisy surprises me. You and especially Les, without provocation launch personal attacks on members of our board and seem surprised when there is a reaction. Do you really wonder why a certain member of our club does "rubbish" one of your members on our board? If your livelihood was slandered repeatedly, how would you feel? Although I do not approve of using the board for this use, he does have a point though…you do have similar attributes of Humpty Dumpty. A word of advice, be very careful what is said about someone’s business. One thing you should remember, if you repeatedly kick a dog, it will bite.
I am puzzled, as if you do not welcome the posting of advertisements, why do you have a "Buy, Sell and Swap" forum?
By the way, it is not I that look foolish, it is you. One of the founding members of our club happens to have taken the photographs in question, and in my books the intellectual property lies with the owner. Oh, you should also learn how to spell "rediculous". The joke is on you!
I have no wish to be associated with you or your club any longer. I will endeavour to refrain from posting on your "discussion board" and visiting your site and will encourage others to do the same. Please take me off the members list (if you know how to)!
Goodbye, farewell and good riddance!
Miles
P.S. I wonder how long this post lasts before viewers realise the truth and it is removed?
P.P.S. Les, insert comments here…………
Miles,
I truly thank you for your post, as it portrays you far better than I could ever have described. No way will your post be removed, to the contrary, I would frame it for all to read, you think you are so smart and eloquent but alas your post truly reveals what sort of dumb mutt you really are, Gumby is quite befitting.
My post had points to which you could have argued against, but no, you had to resort to low personal attacks, in your attempted responce, such as;
Volvo,
limited imagination,
no sense of humour,
surplus of time,
paranoia,
take up needlework,
throw a tupperware party,
my dull life,
my little fellow (who has no credibility)
"The Fat Ugly Enlightenment Club of Bentleigh"
"All hail president Volvo!"
my incompetence,
my hipocrisy,
have similar attributes of Humpty Dumpty,
learn how to spell "rediculous".
Couldn't help but to notice how some phrases have been heard before by another on this board before he got his dumb arse kicked.
So it's goodbye, farewell and good riddance to...oh shit here I come down to your level...you dumb arse brown nose.
no, now it's a promise, just received this privately after my post, I am fed up with your history of threats, so now I will post them publicly;
Thursday, 11 January 2001 2:59 PM
(An ezboard private message from Boss2)
Listen you obnoxious little prick I'm warning you, keep it up and I'm going to slap a law suit on you so fast your arse won't hit the ground. Just get on with your life and leave me right out of it. Any time you want to sort this out Volvi one on one ....you let me know. Till then I strongly advise you to keep your mouth shut about me,as I will tolerate no more. This is your last warning, I have no intention of giving you the satisfaction of laying an assault charge on me fella, but I sure as hell can give your cheque book a melt down in a court of law. Oh and this aint no threat Volvi, it's a promise.
Dear Les,
"maybe you and your drones go play on your own effin board seeing you have nothing constuctive to say.....P off."
That how I linked myself, by VOlvi's own words. The other "effin" board involves me and to that effect ...
Your critisicm of me of not being consistent and retaliating to Volvi is uncalled for and extremely immature as I only said that I resent the implication and in no way did I call him a dickhead (which I could have) nor did I say he was a fool (which I could have). I only told him not to generalise as I know that I do not fall into the category of his opinion based judgements.
I have, based on all requests of all parties involved, reamined fairly impartial to the brouhaha that you fellows seem to cause everytime you open your mouths and given that we live in a democratic world, are allowed to. But when you criticise people about what they do just (even though they do it well) because you have no love for them, it becomes a biased, one sided poisoning session that I have absolutely no respect for. Read the last statement as this means something ....
ram,
i can only say that you my dear fellow have unfortunately spent too much time with the wrong crowd, you appear far too intelligent to have gotten caught up in their ridiculous trap and now, very disappointingly, you are sounding just like them,,
oh well, it's a free world (in oz at least),,
a real pity though my friend i had placed you a hefty cut above the rest,
cheers
les
Is there nothing any of us can say that you would ever agree with Les? Are you that bitter and twisted and blind to the fact that we are ALL thinking individuals rather than the mindless drones you would have others believe we are? If that is the case, I really do feel sorry for you, you pathetic, old man.
It really is so sad that you could take such an attitude with a group of people who formed their own club because this one didn't provide what they were looking for.
I recall not long ago a comment made (by you) that said the troublemaker had been gotten rid of, yet the trouble persists even when the so-called troublemaker no longer posts here, and the common denominator in all of it is you, Les. Whenever anyone from the other club posts here you pounce on them and berate them and ridicule them and abuse them for doing all the things you are doing when you respond to their posts. It obviously has less to do with the content of the posts then with the person who psoted them and your inability to grow up.
If anyone is going to be the final downfall of THIS club, Les, it will be you because no one (with the possible exceptions of Volvi and JP) seems to be safe from your unnecessary and vehement responses. I've even noticed Richard isn't posting here lately. And he certainly isn't posting with us, so I can only assume your behaviour has pissed him off too.
You've lost the plot, Les. Totally lost it, because all the things you accuse us of are clearly seen in your own posts on this board, and will no doubt be seen again once you have read this post and responded to it.
Get over it, and get over yourself. And while you're at it, stop posting senseless, sensationalistic posts that are ill-thought, misguided and destructive to the very same board you hold so dear, posts such as the one Volvi started this stream with and you contributed to.
Let it go, little man, let it go.
sorry to keep you waiting for a response gazza - but some of us millionaires have to work you know (your boss will be happy to hear that), i know your sitting there just slobbering for an opportunity to release more of your verbal crap,,
you said you formed your own club because this one didn't provide what you were looking for, so why the hell do you all keep coming here posting your crap and lets not try and disguise it as anything but!!!
did you ever see me, volvi or richard for that matter (now that you mentioned his name) post on your board??? the answer is NO! NEVER! and the fact that we have ALL been banned there from day one, would not have stopped me if i really wanted to post there - WHICH I DON'T !!!
the simple fact is, that i am not interested in any of you, your board or anything you have to say, isn't that clear enough?? even a "DUMBfounded" like you should be able to understand that,,
post whatever you like on your board - PERSONAL, OFFENSIVE, WHATEVER YOU WISH and you will NEVER see a response to it from me here, there or anywhere else,,
stay away from here, DON'T READ this board and you won't have anything to 'drivel' (i love using that word its so YOU - thanks) about,,
now i reckon if i explained all that to the average 8 year old it would get through no problem, but you are a worry gazza, i'm afraid that it may just be that DUMB bit in that BIG word you used in one of your drivelling posts,,
now i know this will solicit a REACTION from you, but please don't waste your useless time with a response here, post it on your board instead,,
no cheers this time, but i will take your cue on name calling, just for the heck of it and because it fits,,
piss off you DUMB moron!!!
les
Les,
You have done it too. You, in one foul swoop, have generalised about me by stating that"I am "beginning to sound like them". Like whom Les? Like Pete? Like Miles? Like Gazza? Like Phil? Like WHOM?!
Havent you ever wondered about these guys responding and reacting to you at almost every turn of your word? Yes, you are right about Pete. Pete does have issues .... Pete has problems .... but they all seem to be based around you and Volvi. Why do you think this is Les?
Maybe its time for you (and Volvi) to reassess what you guys are about and come to some sort of educated conclusion about solving this obviously long standing tarnishing that seems to be carrying on and getting a bit long in the tooth. I have never thought ill of you, just wondered why it seems that when someone chose to disagree, you always went on the warpath. Especially if that someone was Peter. Do I think Pete's perfect? Hell no! But in that imperfection is someone who knows his limitations, someone who is always willing to listen and learn, someone who is extremely servicing to people's needs (except yours and Volvi's)and has been nothing but generous and gentlemanly in his dealings with me.
I have no need to befriend Pete for any reason and I have done so. Why? Because of his nature and acceptance of other fellow beings. We dont have a problem with him, just you and Volvi. Ask yourself ... What did you do to get him riled up? What do I think? I think Pete got carried away too .... but he did not start this seemingly torrid relationship, did he? He chose to disagree with you guys and that did not fit your idea of comaraderie. So in that respect, I do not think the fault lies with Pete. I wonder where it is ....
I chose to go with the 'other' board / club because I saw the organisation giving something to its members (and I am not talking about just rides). Something that was lacking in this association. I thank you though .... Till Gazza's post, you have shown restraint and diplomacy in your replies (unlike Volvi) but then you too, my dear sir, with your last reply to Gazza, have started to sound (let me see, what were the words? Ah!) "just like them". It is easy to lose one's composure when we are hit where it hurts (wherever that is) and thats what you have been receiving from Boss. You guys have knocked his livelihood time and time again and you expect him not to respond?
Again, I must reiterate, I have never thought ill of you but I too sir, like you, must say 'alas'. I too placed you a cut above the rest ....
Ram
Millionaire? wtf?
Firstly Les, as for calling me a dumb moron, I will stack my brain power against yours any day comfortable in the knowledge that I will win. I have documented proof of my very high intellectual capabilites which I'm sure is more than you can lay claim to. Again, your attempt at an insult (and I might be insulted it I cared what you think of me) is just another example of the scurrilous invective you have hurled at Pete's Pitstop, other members of the spinoff club, and me.
Secondly, I'm flattered. Your continued (and unoriginal use of the word "drivel", which no doubt you had never even heard of before I used it towards you) can be taken as nothing short of a compliment, and your acknowledgement of my own high level of intellect and my ability to find the right word for the right occasion. Something you clearly cannot do without borrowing from others.
Thirdly, I am sure that everyone else on this board is sick to death of this nonsense. Obviously one of us has to be the bigger man, and it is clearly up to me to do so. I will not bother to read your subsequent replies to this message so save yourself the time and effort. It will be ignored by me, at the very least, and probably by a lot of others as I'm sure your continued animosity towards certain people has driven others away from your club. I will, from here on in, no longer engage in a battle of wits with you, as it is a hollow victory for me, and affords me no joy or pleasure to do battle with an unarmed man.
hello again ram,
exactly, yes "them" are those that you list and without thinking, you all sing the same one sided song and the disappointing part is that NOT ONE OF YOU is able to demonstrate any objectivity - although i must admit that phill has been pretty good lately and miles, apart from his lycra shit and more recently his idiotic response to volvi has been silent all along,,
you parrot each other with songs like "you guys have knocked his livelihood time and time again" - can you please indicate where ANY OF US have ever done that???
if i wanted to knock his livelihood (pete's) especially after all the personally offensive material he relentlessly keeps posting about us, which i note that NONE OF YOU EVER OBJECT TO (at least not publicly), i would have said "pete is a small time backyarder who knows nothing about bikes especially busas" (but i didn't), i could have said that "he fiddles his dyno figures which he told me himself" (but i didn't) and i could have said that "he did a service on my bike which left a hell of a lot to be desired" (but i didn't) - in fact, i told quite a few guys that he was A TOP MECHANIC and directed them to his workshop, volvi being one of those - hard to believe now, but it was true,,
you see ram, i have deliberately shown the restraint and diplomacy that you have mentioned, i spend very little time on your board and react to nothing that gets posted there, even if it is personally offensive - which it often is,,
when anyone posts something general here like "there are SOME that fiddle their dyno figures to please their customers" - pete and you guys take it as though it was referring to him - BUT IS IT BECAUSE IT FITS AND HE FEELS GUILTY? - i suppose it must be and so he should, but than lets be honest ram, the HP figures he claims are sheer bullshit "SHAYSTER PONIES" i endearingly call them, as it has been blatantly and publicly pointed out by some real knowledgable guys, globally - to get those sort of figures one needs to do some "real serious engine work" and you for one should well and truly know that,,
but if you guys want to accept and believe (or just blindly play along) with all of pete's bullshit on the basis that he, the 'self appointed superhero busa guru' can do no wrong, go for it - it's fine by me, just keep it on your board,,
you all seem extremely tolerant of a guy that issues public (and private) "threats/promises" of violence, who makes ridiculous claims of achievement, who continually publicly offends others on various boards and is a blatant pathological liar... WHY SO??? it looks like a major case of brown nosing to me, but hey that's cool too, just don't expect me to follow suit or take it all lying down,,
my suggestion is that you guys stay on your board (and post whatever you like) and i'll stay here AND as a bonus, i will try not to make any further 'general' comments that could be construed by those who feel guilty and believe that it was specifically aimed at them,,
i reckon this should be the end of it then, huh?
btw, i still reckon you are a cut above the rest,,
cheers
les
ps - parting thought
if your board IS NOT "pete's personal possession" why is it that volvi, richard and i have been banned from posting there from the start??? none of us had ANY issues with ANYONE accept pete, at that point in time!!! your one of the moderators, how do you feel about that??
Here is the plan. You guys who wanted to set up a splinter group and board, STICK TO IT! Please don't come over here and carry on like idiots. I don't CARE who said what to whom, I don't CARE who's bike has the most ponies, I DON'T CARE! What I do care about is having a board where I feel I can post without ridicule and rubbish. I feel I have it here, you feel you have it there. Where is the problem?
STAY AWAY!
You keep threatening to not post any more, well DON'T! Stop making empty promises. You made a new board for a reason, use it. Life is too short to dance with ugly people.
GOODONYA HEIDI,
for having the guts to speak up,,
i hope "all you guys" from pete's board don't see heidi's post as an invitation to come here and try and slap her down, because she is right and you all know that!!
cheers
heidi
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