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Did a search on this, but nothing obvious came up.
Has anyone used a race shift set up recently on the road i.e. 1 up 5 down?
Its been something that has been at the back of my mind for a while, mainly because I seem to miss an up-shift from time to time when giving it the berries. I had to retrain myself many moons ago from right foot gearshift to left foot, so it shouldn't be too hard.
So any input from users on the *road*, not just track?
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yeah....I've always been curious about the same thing, B/bob!! 
and speaking of something else just slightly related.....I'd also be keen if anyone knows where I could get a "thumb" brake set-up installed....ala M. Doohan style (after he mangled his right leg at Laguna Seca)?!?
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When your giving it the berries the gears still hold together and you'll still get blank pushes of the gear lever... It shits me to tears when mine does it, but unless you wanna under cut gears what are you gonna do? Quick shifter maybe?
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(24-11-2011, 09:38pm)Belzybob Wrote: Did a search on this, but nothing obvious came up.
Has anyone used a race shift set up recently on the road i.e. 1 up 5 down?
Its been something that has been at the back of my mind for a while, mainly because I seem to miss an up-shift from time to time when giving it the berries. I had to retrain myself many moons ago from right foot gearshift to left foot, so it shouldn't be too hard.
So any input from users on the *road*, not just track?
If you missed the shift up what makes you think that it will be any different shifting it down? Maybe check and adjust the shifter linksage for an excessive play.
For a track it might make sense as it could be a bit tight there and you could be scrapping the boots trying to fit you foot under the lever but then again you shouldnt really be changing gears mid turn  Kevin Schwantz run standard setup while racing so it is not absolutely necessary even there. For the street even less in my opinion, unless you have two bikes and run reversed one for the track. Then the street bike should really have the same pattern to avoid otherwise inevitable disaster. It has a bit of a wank factor though...
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(24-11-2011, 09:52pm)BJK1 Wrote: Quick shifter maybe? Probably not going that far. Just curious what anyone trying it has found.
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Fairly easy to do just turn the knuckle around. Only thing to watch is that you may need a longer rod to have the peg adjusted to wear you like. I changed both my race bike and my street bike a number of years ago, I doubt I could go back standard shift now. Takes some getting use to though.
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(24-11-2011, 10:24pm)abusa Wrote: Fairly easy to do just turn the knuckle around. Only thing to watch is that you may need a longer rod to have the peg adjusted to wear you like. I changed both my race bike and my street bike a number of years ago, I doubt I could go back standard shift now. Takes some getting use to though.
Yep, got the rod as it came with the rearsets. What are the plus/minus of running that way?
(24-11-2011, 10:00pm)Shifu Wrote: It has a bit of a wank factor though...
So how did you find it?
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I've also wondererd how it would compare for ease of riding on the road. I suppose it's just what you get used too.
One of the racers I know swears by it. He sayes: "when you put your head down change down. When you lift your head up change up" - but I've never tried it.
I have enough trouble riding the old pommie bikes with the gear change on the right (I tend to not use the rear brake so I don't get confused)
I rode an early Ducati once. Upside down and on the other side.
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I have my roadbike std and race bikes reverse, don't have much of a problem going from one to another , should convert the roady and keep it consistant
I reguarly use both on the Street, it all started when I dabbled in Drag Racing back in the late 90's/early 2000's, in my eyes the Downshift; (reverse pattern to change up), in racing (Drag) promotes a downward motion on the bike as your changing gear, there was talk many moons ago about doing this could be worth upto a Tenth of a Second over the Quarter.
Also, some large sweepers, (Pacific Waste at Mallala), is a Large Left, its reasonably comon to change up thru this Sweeper.
Belzybob, being able to ride with the Gear Shift pattern in either configuration can only be a good thing, whilst it may not really be necessary for riding on the Streets, its just something that you can do which could be a bit of a feather in your cap someday.
FYI My K9 has Standard Gearshift and my old A/SB (which I ride on the road) has reverse pattern, I suppose its a bit like an AFL Player - Being able to kick with both Feet.
Anyways, my 5 cents worth, it doesnt hurt to be able to do it.
Bazman, if you didnt know, i believe you can buy Thumb Brake Systems thru hardracing.com: http://www.hardracing.com/GP%20Tech/Thumbrake.htm
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This all reminds me way back to the old road race days when I was raceing two bikes on the same day.one was a lister framed 500 kawasaki with right foot 1 up 5 down and a production 500 kawasaki with left foot 1 down 5 up,a hell of a strain on the brain,it brought me down once.A mate owned the lister kawasaki and did not want to change it and I had to leave my kawasaki h1b standed for production races.Ahhhh the good old days. 
I've seen guys at the track with a bloody great bit of masking tape across the dash with RACE PATTERN written on it. Takes a while to get used to.
(25-11-2011, 09:23am)Heidi1 Wrote: I've seen guys at the track with a bloody great bit of masking tape across the dash with RACE PATTERN written on it. Takes a while to get used to.
HAHA, thats it!
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Interesting so far. Does anyone recall the days when people started modifying right foot changes to left (i.e. before the manufacturers started doing it). Did it reverse the gear operation? The commonly mooted reason for the race chage pattern is it makes getting the toe under when cranked over easier, but was that the effect rather than the intent?
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I reckon this is a better option;
http://www.pingelonline.com/eshifter.htm
http://www.schnitzracingstore.com/catalo...id=5006040&showprevnext=1
My upper back hurts when I pull the clutch in due to 2 x drunk woman driver inflicted fractured upper vertabrae. Was the first thing I had S&R Pro fit to the K8.
Unlike a foot and clutch, no time delay whatsoever & the only time you have to use your clutch is when you stop & start.
After 50,000 kms, it was stuffed & as my upper back is still stuffed, I had to have it replaced straight away.
It is now an addiction.
Word has it, also good with heavy duty clutch springs.
No need for any ar*e about face shift pattern either.
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