(11-04-2010, 05:27pm)Throwdown! Wrote: So from the date it's paid, which means it's in my interest to pay it quickly and get it over and done with then? Yes. It's also in the Government Revenue Collector's interest.
The sooner you pay, the sooner the you receive the dreaded demerit points & the sooner they expire.
You don't look like a bad lookin Shiela on your Avatar. You could have just given the Copper a big sloppy kiss & he might of let you off with a warning. If I gave a Copper a big slopy kiss,  I'd get shot 
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Well you have to stop for 6 months anyway so you may as well cop the the extra 3 months on top of it I guess, otherwise one more booking & you will get a min 3-6 months anyway & Im not sure on the points set uo from there when you start up again, & don't drive or ride with no licence or you will really be in the shit when you get caught 
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Okay, got the ticket in the post quick enough. $338 and 8 points for tootling along the road - unbelievable. Will pay it quickly to get the good behaviour done asap, unless anyone has better advice.
There's no point arguing anything with this system as we all sound guilty as sin whenever we defend ourselves against this crap, but in the UK I got points twice in 20 years while in NSW I've been fined 9 times in 9 years. I give up. It's impossible not to get done unless you sit in the middle lane doing 90 - that'll be me from now on, as my life will tumble like a deck of cards if I could not drive/ride to work 110km away.
I could take the clamping down on speed better if they would just enforce other road rules like keeping left as well, but it's as if speeding is the only road rule that should be adhered to - it's nuts!
Carpe Diem!
It bloody well is. Have you ever driven on the autobans? Ok, there are lunatics, but everyone knows how to drive! I felt completely safe at speeds I would never do in a car here in Australia because everyone was alert and knew what to do. As someone pointed out the other day, when they have pile ups, the involve 200 cars, but why muck around! The thing I really liked about it was if something happened up ahead, everone wacked on their hazards. You didn't know why until you got there, it could be an accident, something on the road or fog, but you knew in a second to give the road your complete attention and you could trust the people in front of you were doing the same.
I read a report somewhere (probably the internet) that they have a lower accident rate than here. I can't substantiate that of course, but this is the hayabusa board so I might as well report it as fact.
Spot on Heidi...I read the same thing...pretty sure it was the safety expert from Mercedes explaining the ins-and-outs of autobahns re: driver concentration and speed limits.
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these idiots now have us travelling so slowly for so long that we all crash because of fatigue
this country is too big to go places at 80 to 100kph
140kph is a reasonable cruising speed on decent country roads. you dont get bored.
What ever you decide.... GOOD LUCK...
I know when I lost my license in NSW, I lasted about a month before I had to take little bike rides down to the foreshore....
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I've heard of studies that say concentration is better in people driving faster as well. As it is listening to the radio (that stopped them being taxed in the UK). Certainly true for me - I fight falling asleep when going inappropriately slow, as it's like being rocked to sleep.
Also, countires like Italy were cutting down on speeding cameras and RAISING speed limits to REDUCE accidents. Government stats in all countries are the best evidence for all of this stuff. People just want them to admit it's for revenue not safety - the lack of honesty and laughable Police lectures just get irritating.
Generally, cause of accidents in all countries according to their Government's stats are;
1. disobeying road rules (U-turns, not staying left on motorways etc...)
2. tail gating
3. THEN SPEED, although some countires have it as low as 4th or 5th
This is from memory, but as has been previously said '...it's the Hayabusa site so may as well quote it as fact' without looking it up again. :)
Carpe Diem!
I have to agree with the concentration point of view. You tend to be very alert when the needle is a little further round the clock than the alloted speed limit. Up here in central qld,the powers that be don't bother fixing the roads they just drop the speed limit to 90 or 80. that goes for 40 & 50 K's in place, absolute PIA.
(10-04-2010, 08:41pm)Hutch99 Wrote: JUST SLOW DOWN SPEED FREAKS!!!lol Yeah---slow down to 40 kmph for DWDs
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It's all for our safety.
As road users car or motorcyclists are not represented. Certainly we do not have representation or ability to lobby Politicians at a level exercised by insurance companies who I am sure would be happy to carry no risk. Government on the other hand see motorists in general as an easy target for quick cash. Interesting to read WA introduction for new front and rear speed camera's that revenue is expected to tripple from speeding fines. Even I am impressed at the lives this will save.
(26-04-2010, 06:22am)marktammy Wrote: I have to agree with the concentration point of view. You tend to be very alert when the needle is a little further round the clock than the alloted speed limit. Up here in central qld,the powers that be don't bother fixing the roads they just drop the speed limit to 90 or 80. that goes for 40 & 50 K's in place, absolute PIA.
(27-04-2010, 11:56pm)Landmine Wrote: It's all for our safety.
As road users car or motorcyclists are not represented. Certainly we do not have representation or ability to lobby Politicians at a level exercised by insurance companies who I am sure would be happy to carry no risk. Government on the other hand see motorists in general as an easy target for quick cash. Interesting to read WA introduction for new front and rear speed camera's that revenue is expected to tripple from speeding fines. Even I am impressed at the lives this will save.
(26-04-2010, 06:22am)marktammy Wrote: I have to agree with the concentration point of view. You tend to be very alert when the needle is a little further round the clock than the alloted speed limit. Up here in central qld,the powers that be don't bother fixing the roads they just drop the speed limit to 90 or 80. that goes for 40 & 50 K's in place, absolute PIA.
Dearest "Landmine" (Bottomfeeding Public Servant),
Global Positioning System fixed Speed Camera Location/Warning devices are in fact legal in all states of Australia-- this is because all the so called Motor Accident Authorities know for a fact that Speed Cameras cause more so called "Accidents" than they prevent. So they brought out the mobile units as it would be impossible to store GPS positions in a C100's (hot sales tip) database.
Pissweak legislation against drunk drivers = Shi*loads of revenue(booze tax).
Mobile And Fixed Speed Cameras = Shi*loads of revenue.
The photo above was what occurs when a motorcyclist collides
(T-Bones} with a Drunk Woman Driver @ the posted speed limit.
GATSO - (Pulse Doppler Radar---hot sales tip).
I reckon your a member of the Communist Australian/Chinese Kevin Crudd Labor Government Landmine.
Just make sure you've got shi*loads of income protection insurance because, if ya live it will take ya at least 5 years until ya get that muthafuc*er of a government insurance company in court !!!
"Its all for our safety---ABSOLUTE FUC*IN BULLSHI* !
Have a nice day 
Grunt, clearly you have had your irony filter removed. Why don't you have another look at landmine's post?
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Gruntmax: I've only vaguely picked up on your situation recently, so have missed all the detail. One of my realities is that people (generally) hate motorcyclist, which isn't helped by the wheelies, speeding hoons, speeding traffic filterers (Guilty) and bikie gangs.
I've never known of a bike accident where the attributed blame hasn't started with the rider. I've known of bikers waking up in hospital from no fault accidents, only to find that they have been out for so long that all concerned have already decided it was their fault - even to the extent of the insurance company paying out.
Fastcat, on the org board, had her racksack drop and entangle onto her rear axle while going along at the speed limit. Her mates were horrifed to hear ambulance and Police concluding she was speeding and riding recklessly even as she laid on the tarmac at death's door.
Looking at the damage to the car in your picture, I have no doubt they considered that despite her turning into your path, you were going too quickly. They'll decide that because no one could concieve that a bike could cause that much damage if it's at the speed limit. I'm not saying it won't - I have no idea what damage a bike will cause on a car, but more to the point neither do they! It's a bike and the biker is always at fault unless he's awake to argue differently and has 1000 witnesses.
I'd be furious as well, but I'll bet you were shafted by more people than just Carr's Government.
Carpe Diem!
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