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[kawasuki]

It is a sad thing that others where killed.

Maybe procedures will be changed.

Maybe if the courts had locked him up after his previous offence this would not have happened.
Maybe if the courts jail the next person on their first offence this sort of thing might be prevented.
Maybe if he had killed himself in his previous prang.
Maybe if the Police hadn't pursued.
Maybe if the Police had called it off 1 minute earlier, or 2 or 3.
Maybe if it wasn't this intersection.
Maybe if he had stopped.
Maybe if he hadn't stolen the car in the first place.
Maybe if he arrived at theat intersection one minute later.
Maybe if the Police knew who the offender was they could just go t his house and wait for him to come home.

Maybe the media should hold this up and shove it in the face of every crim and car thief and say, DO YOU WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. If you pull over, If you don't try and flee you can avoid this.
But unfortulately, someone else is always at fault for their actions, never themselves.

I constantly read in this forum and others why don't the cops do this or that, or they shouldn't do this or that.

Why is it that the Police seem to be solely to blame. If you believe that all pursuits should be banned, that's fine. It may just happen. If it does, don't come here spewing your hate for Police because they didn't catch some dirtbag crim.

Don't come here spewing your cop hate period. Take it to the newspapers. There are plenty that will happily lap it up for you.

That's my view.

If I've upset anyone, just pm an Admin, let them know and they can happily cancel my account. I am over it.

when police are hated by the public they only have themselves to blame for there lame actions.
Small example a young man chased near Bathurst years ago for a unpaid fine they chased him for 20 or so miles till he hit a poll and died, funny thing they new were the young kid lived and thats were he was heading frightened and wanted the safety of his dad.After that His farther who is deceased now kept a loaded rifle at his door and told me the first copper that came through his gate would wear it , thats how these actions effect the family, his wife went around the bend and didnt recover. And ALL the circumstances i have had with the Hwy pigs tells me there farking cowboys. ANd if i want to spew i will do it here and elsewere, if you dont like it dont read it.

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Yes it is, and that you and Ray are using them as a political football. They were a husband, a wife and a small baby, not a statistic, not a headline, not a handy example for you to twist for your own conspiracy theories.

Not worth a responce

[Heidi1]

Don't you get brave when you think no-one is standing up to you. You think it is right that the father kept a gun behind the door and told his child that he would give it to the first copper that came through the door? Bullshit.

[kawasuki]

Don't you get brave when you think no-one is standing up to you. You think it is right that the father kept a gun behind the door and told his child that he would give it to the first copper that came through the door? Bullshit.

U should read a little closer ,,,,the child was DEAD Read it again.this time open your one sided eye
The only bullshit around here is what comes out of your --- ----
Or are u makin browny points with the Hwy boys on the forum.

[Heidi1]

Don't need to. I'm going to leave you alone now, go back to your booze.

[ROD]

Gee Ray some Highway patrol officer must of ramed his batton up your ass so hard for you to hate them ALL that much .
As Busdriver said what if , Well what if the police did nothing and this person still had that stollen car Monday morning and took out a full School bus yeh what if .Life is full of what if And you have no idea how those police feel right now , Could be jumping for joy but i dont think so

[Dan85]

Seriously Ray shut the f*** up. Ever wonder why you have so much trouble with highway patrol and the majority of the board doesn't? Could it be your a rude intolerant prick and the coppers don't like being talked to like shit? Possibly who knows.

[twistgrip]

What if some queer snatched one of your loved ones....would u want that car to be chased?? how the f&#ck are coppers supposed to know whats goin on in that in that stolen car?? .....CHASE EM TILL THEY'RE CAUGHT !!!!!!

[Diablo]

Ray, have you ever had an original thought? Seems that you swallow whatever biggoted crap the radical sections of the media want to spew. I have avoided comment regarding your comments for too long. From the comments here it is apparent that no one is interested in your red neck views. I don't say this just because you seem to get a kick out of bashing the Police, if you were a mid western bible thumping religious nutter that continually sprouted theological rantings, it would have the same result. Just sick of hearing it.

If the attitude you display here is the same as the way you deal with Police on the side of the road, it's no wonder that they literally ream you every time. Noone likes to be treated like shit, so don't complain when it comes straight back at you.

As Busdriver said, if my views offend, tell an admin, my 2cents

[1300hayabusa]

I think the problem is not chasing the offender but when to stop,the lack of training in high speed chases conducted by 22 year old officers is also a factor!!!!On the other hand the police here in Qld dont have the best reputation at the moment,between child porn,corruption(g/coast),abuse of power and a string of related crap its hard to trust the very institution that's supposed to deter the mentioned problems.

[kawasuki]

Don't need to. I'm going to leave you alone now, go back to your booze.

and u to your dildo

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Seriously Ray shut the f*** up. Ever wonder why you have so much trouble with highway patrol and the majority of the board doesn't? Could it be your a rude intolerant prick and the coppers don't like being talked to like shit? Possibly who knows.

Hey dan i have havent attacked anyone on this board personaly (first)
but it seems the gloves are off u farkwit muslim lover.

[NEMESIS]

I read this thread an thought i needed to reply.

I think there are alot of good valid points here,from both
sides of the fence.

But let me tell you,from experience 1st hand,
that they do not call of chases when they should have.
Some are relentless an will pursue no matter what.

The odds for the offender AND the police are the same
when speeds are reaching in excess of 200kmh for an accident to
occur on the road.
I dont care who you are or if your last names ends with fangio. No amount of 'special driving courses' is going to help when
the unpredictable is involved.

I think letting the helicopter close in on them an let the pursuit cars
back off an then radio- ing on there location once the vehicle
has stopped is the best/safest approach. That is if the driver isnt
ramming people off the road as the pursuit is going on etc.
Different situations call for difference actions i suppose.

Im sure yous get what im saying,if not,fire away.

Hope everyones doing well

[kawasuki]

I think the problem is not chasing the offender but when to stop,the lack of training in high speed chases conducted by 22 year old officers is also a factor!!!!On the other hand the police here in Qld dont have the best reputation at the moment,between child porn,corruption(g/coast),abuse of power and a string of related crap its hard to trust the very institution that's supposed to deter the mentioned problems.

U see young P drivers in hot cars with no sence what makes u think a uniform changes anything?

[big kev]

i have sat and read what has been said here, and none of us are qualified to really comment of what happen , all i know is its a tragic that a family wont be home tonite . grandparents wont have there kids and a grandchild to spent holidays with and there freinds are sad.

At what point are we able to comment on what the cops did wrong and what the offenders did. we were not there we dont really know , only what we here on the news......................shouldent we be focusing on our own lives and haveing alittle thourt for the family that has just been lost...........................all this crap OHH THE COPS DID THIS AND THE COPS DID THAT is just CRAP CRAP CRAP , Ray its time to get down of your soap box mate ,



thats my 2c

[ROD]

Don't need to. I'm going to leave you alone now, go back to your booze.

and u to your dildo

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Seriously Ray shut the f*** up. Ever wonder why you have so much trouble with highway patrol and the majority of the board doesn't? Could it be your a rude intolerant prick and the coppers don't like being talked to like shit? Possibly who knows.

Hey dan i have havent attacked anyone on this board personaly (first)
but it seems the gloves are off u farkwit muslim lover.

No need to go racial is there

[kawasuki]

Don't need to. I'm going to leave you alone now, go back to your booze.

and u to your dildo

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Seriously Ray shut the f*** up. Ever wonder why you have so much trouble with highway patrol and the majority of the board doesn't? Could it be your a rude intolerant prick and the coppers don't like being talked to like shit? Possibly who knows.

Hey dan i have havent attacked anyone on this board personaly (first)
but it seems the gloves are off u farkwit muslim lover.

No need to go racial is there

Rod do u call a religion racial????? I think its race not religion thats called racism