really worries me

[cheeky]

my nephews from canberra just arrived a few days ago..

in NSW to get your red p plates its 120 hours.and in thoes hours you need 20 hours of night time driving..once you completed that you do your driving course and when you pass you go onto the red p plates.
once you turn 18 you then do another driver course and when you pass you get the green p plate.


in canberra its not a requirement that you even do 50 hours.if you pass the driving test you go onto red p plates and once out of ACT you can do the 100km speed limit.

i was astounded to learn that my nephews who have minor knowleged at driving were given huge freedom on the road..also they can drive bigger weight too ratio cars as well.


its damned scary...

why is the ACT so different???

[cheeky]

now another friend of son who is on her p plates from S.A turned up tonight driving an xr8.!!!


ok yep she was driving a 'ford' .that in itself should be illegal.lol


why cant we have uniform laws when it comes to learner and p plate drivers across the nation?

[Fifi_Sutho]

hey hey hey there lady enough about those beautiful fords.....

I too am scared about my girls coming up to driving age..... they are coming up for 15 and with the amount of young drivers out there that are total idiots Im heaps scared for my girls.... Im trying to instill in them the need for being so totally responsible for how they drive on the road, and when they get into their friends cars....

It is a lot of hours to get through and trying to get my twins through these hours its going to take them quite a long time which Im hoping will be a good thing...

As for other states not being the same, its like with other things too;.. Being a teacher no other state is the same as ours when it comes to teaching laws etc... For us to teach in another state we have to do other training etc to get permission to teach there, not to mention the poor kids who move interstate and have to learn new ways of learning. The curriculum is hard enough without adding that to it...

I agree with you honey that there should be universal laws for important things like driving etc so that our road rules and not foreign to us when we travel interstate. As for younger kids driving powerful cars that scares me even more...

Ok Ive had my whinge/complain about this. As my Marky would have said, I was harping on again.. LOL

Safe driving and riding to everyone ...

[cheeky]

thanks fifi!!

sorry about the fords remark..but geez i couldnthelp myself since i do love the holdens ALOT!!!!


lol

i adore mustangs and hubs does want a 55 f100...and he said yes he will take all the ribbing the mates will send his way..

we actually had in our paddock at one stage a plated "number 1 make chevy 55' just sitting there for years.



but on the topic of thread..

it would be important for all the kids across australia to have universal rules.

i have had one do the 50 hours now i have one having to do 120 hours.

fifi i didnt know about the teaching criteria.i assumed or didnt even think about it that the rules across the states were different.

thats a tad crappy...

[Champs]

It is quite logical when you think of it Cheeky............

Consider some of the other significant law differences between Canberra and the rest of OZ - The old porn laws, relaxed drugs laws, alcohol purchase locations, etc......... How else could all the pollies that live there (and visit before anyone says it!) ever stay out of jail if such laws weren't so relaxed??????

Just an observation from a corrupt police state dweller - getting in early before the non-QLDers say it :)

[Raging]

I agree cheeky, P platers should not be allowed to drive fords..

They should start in holdens, something without any balls to it. And with the constant break downs, they should find out rather quickly how to check things that I am sure no one has shown them how to check before.

Seriously though, how many new drivers know how/where to check things on cars? Oil, coolant etc etc...even tyre pressure. My brother in law in nearly 19, has his own car, drives on the highways out here, and I had to show him not long ago how to change a flat tyre. He didn't know where the oil dipstick was. He didn't know what pressure to put in the tyres. His mother never fueled a car in her life, and she has been driving 25 odd years to my knowledge...

And their should be a test to be able to tow a bloody trailer...

I'm glad I never got tied up in all this crap that young people have to go through. I would really like to see a defencive driving course made compulsory to get a licence though. I have done a few, and think they would be very valuable to young drivers, or any driver for that matter.

[CeeJay07]

As far as I'm concerned, if you can't change a flat tyre and check oil, water etc..... you shouldn't have a bloody licence. It should be part of the driving test. The Yanks have the right idea (can't believe I just typed that)...they start driver education in high school...why can't the Ruddmeister and his jolly band of knobpolishers implement a similar scheme here?

[Louwai]

in NSW to get your red p plates its 120 hours.and in thoes hours you need 20 hours of night time driving..once you completed that you do your driving course and when you pass you go onto the red p plates.

In my mind this is the scariest bit. Completing 120hrs BEFORE you do your driving course.

Driving should be taught by professional instructors & they should all teach the EXACT same course. One of the reasons we have so many probelms on the roads is because of kids learning from Mum & Dad, who, of course teach the kids the "right" way. That being THEIR way, along with all of the bad habits.
No one should be allowed on the road until they've done a certified driving course.
Once they get their licence, everyone should also do a advanced course with at least 1 portion in a skid pan.

What happened to "Keep Left" ??? No one does that anymore. Not here anyway. Young drivers sitting in the right lane because no one has taught them to keep left.

[Raging]

It'd be ok if the cops actually followed up on some of the road rules, apart from just focusing on speeding. Anyone mention revenue raising?

[RaZ]

omg people!! Throw ya kids in to go karts & find an empty field with a cheap car & tech them they way you were taught.

Drivers here in Australia in general are a joke - I am so glad I did all my driver training & testing in north america where they actually teach you how to drive & merge!!!

Part f the "P" plate tests in Canada where I did mine was to merge on to a freeway & back off again at the next exit. If you were not doing 100 by the time you had to merge - you failed - if you slowed down before being on the off ramp - you failed.

[keno77]

i think less of niv now he wants to own a ford- cheeky you should be ashamed....
and raz has the right idea- best way to learn to drive is in the paddock. for those in the city mandatory driver training on a wet skid pan

[Raging]

The difference between city and country drivers before an accident..

A city driver will yell "Ahhh sh#t!!"

A country driver will say "Here, hold my rum, watch this for skill!"

[cheeky]

so true raging i always knew you were a smart person.

cept if you hit a pot hole or a gilguy you might spill the rum and thats friggen tragic!

yes keno nivs always wanted a 55 f100...he will do theropy soon.. he said that he knows all his mates will hang shite on him.


i reckon lowi on the right track..get the kids doing skid pans ect.

plus its good fun