out in the open - posted by raz

[Volvi]

OK I'll chime in for what it worth, all the above sentiments i agree with but lets put things into prespective.

Max had a gripe and a justified one. Its not unreasonable for him to expect someone to live up to their committments. He tried privately but felt as time went by it got him no where, so in the end, you Chris forced him to go public, which he did. I felt he came down hard and didnt need to do so but were all different in how we react. Each to theyre own.

Chris, Ive met you a few times and have nothing against you personally. But you fuked up here and the sensible approach would have been to say "People I apologise but due some personal shit I have been lapse in what I committed myself to do for the winning members. I am getting onto it straight away and will be sending out the goods as promised within a week". Hey its ok to say i fuked up, we all do were all human. But you reacted the other way and backed yourself into a corner to do what you never intended doing by quitting.

So my suggestion is to Chris just make a public apology for the delay in meeting your obligations, do what has to be done and get back to doing the things you enjoy and stay with us. Put it in the past and move on.

Max, whilst you had every right in publicly declaring your gripe on the matter, you also may have gone a bit overboard by hounding him in every thread. Once made public it would have been reasonable to give the guy a week or two to make up his mistake, instead of blasting him at every thread, but I know your a hard nut and your just reacting as you would normally do. So if Chris were to apologise to you and those he may have caused ill feeling, perhaps you to will find it in your heart to not only forgive him but also to apologise for coming onto him a little harder then you should have.

Ok Ive said enough. So the ball really is in Chris's court first. He can do as I suggested and perhaps Max will also do as I suggested and we can all kiss and make up and get on with what we love doing best, namely being a group of like minded people whose bikes brings us together for better or for worse. Or continue the shyte flying back and forth.

Over to you Chris/Raz.