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02-10-2000, 10:58pm
Well I'll run with you on this one there Gsxr 1000, some people do on this board tend to be a little into sensationalism.I have spoken before about the wank element that tends to be evident due to the fact of some people trying to make themselves appear so important by being the first to REPORT the latest news or gossip as the case maybe,often leaving out ALL or most of the relevent details.
Richard once again your post is hear say and could also be misleading as all the factors certianly are not included.Having read many of your posts on various other Busa boards on the net and for someone with very limited knowledge on the Busa you do offer quite a lot of information and opinions,unfortunately many times not always good advice or correct.The problem here is people with even less knowledge follow this advice and end up in trouble.I even seek advice from those that know something more than myself and even then would be very hesitant to pass it on until I had fully followed it up.Propaganda and sensationalism gets no one no where and only takes up the time of those concerned trying to sort out the real problem, time that they could have put to more productive use for the benefit of all.I have no wish to get into a long and lengthy debate over this so to those who wish don't even bother. Why numbnuts has had so much problem with the tensioners I cannot say,without having all the facts or without inspecting the bike,how many members in this club? and how many have had cam tensioner failure???
I don't think many, so I would not call it a common failure here in oz,if any one deserves a tensioner failure I do as I would say the workouts I have given my Busa on the dyno far exceeed the normal work load that most people would place on there bike under normal riding conditions.As for the frame breakage I would love to see and inspect the bike (for free) once again there can be many reasons for this and I am not saying this is the case here but in this day and age I have found that in my twenty eight years in the motor trade people in general will say and do anything to get a free fix.I repeat before all the fingers hit the key boards that I am NOT implying this is the case here, but it does happen over and over and the fact that it does makes it much more difficult for the genuine person.I also wonder Richard as to why Paul notified you before Suzuki or his dealer ?? I certianly know who I would notify first,and Volvi like Wow !!! lets wait before we run of half c.o.c.ked shall we,but you seem to have a problem with doing that which is still to be sorted out when by chance we next meet.Being the founder of the Busa club I would have thought your input would be more productive and try to work in conjunction with the users and manufacturer giving them input to the problem if there is one.The more accurate input and factors makes it much easier for the problem to be solved,which in turn benefits all owners in the long run.As of yet Suzuki apparently do not even know of the problem let alone been given a chance to inspect the bike and allready they are being condemned.So before we go into panic mode lets all see just what is the problem and also the cause for it.I have only been on two club rides when I was a member but I have seen some riders do things with there bikes that as a mechanic make me cringe,probably totally unaware that what they are doing is far from good for there machine, but most often operator abuse is the cause for many problems that do occur.So lets just enjoy a bike that is certianly one of the best I have ever owned and let the experts sort it out.Remember it is a machine and can break but all is fixable in the long run.So how about a little less media type hype and a lot more productive input so as to benefit all owners and riders.This is supposed to be the Hayabusa club and there may be a problem here and maybe not,but one thing I know for sure is if you want someone to help you solve a problem you may have,you don't slag them before you have even given them a chance to do so,as has occured here.The important factor I stress here is that for any problem to be solved the correct and full scenario leading up to the fault or failure must be given not just some hyped up post that benefits no one. Boss Edited by: Boss2 at: 10/3/00 8:33:24 am
Richard once again your post is hear say and could also be misleading as all the factors certianly are not included.Having read many of your posts on various other Busa boards on the net and for someone with very limited knowledge on the Busa you do offer quite a lot of information and opinions,unfortunately many times not always good advice or correct.The problem here is people with even less knowledge follow this advice and end up in trouble.I even seek advice from those that know something more than myself and even then would be very hesitant to pass it on until I had fully followed it up.Propaganda and sensationalism gets no one no where and only takes up the time of those concerned trying to sort out the real problem, time that they could have put to more productive use for the benefit of all.I have no wish to get into a long and lengthy debate over this so to those who wish don't even bother. Why numbnuts has had so much problem with the tensioners I cannot say,without having all the facts or without inspecting the bike,how many members in this club? and how many have had cam tensioner failure???
I don't think many, so I would not call it a common failure here in oz,if any one deserves a tensioner failure I do as I would say the workouts I have given my Busa on the dyno far exceeed the normal work load that most people would place on there bike under normal riding conditions.As for the frame breakage I would love to see and inspect the bike (for free) once again there can be many reasons for this and I am not saying this is the case here but in this day and age I have found that in my twenty eight years in the motor trade people in general will say and do anything to get a free fix.I repeat before all the fingers hit the key boards that I am NOT implying this is the case here, but it does happen over and over and the fact that it does makes it much more difficult for the genuine person.I also wonder Richard as to why Paul notified you before Suzuki or his dealer ?? I certianly know who I would notify first,and Volvi like Wow !!! lets wait before we run of half c.o.c.ked shall we,but you seem to have a problem with doing that which is still to be sorted out when by chance we next meet.Being the founder of the Busa club I would have thought your input would be more productive and try to work in conjunction with the users and manufacturer giving them input to the problem if there is one.The more accurate input and factors makes it much easier for the problem to be solved,which in turn benefits all owners in the long run.As of yet Suzuki apparently do not even know of the problem let alone been given a chance to inspect the bike and allready they are being condemned.So before we go into panic mode lets all see just what is the problem and also the cause for it.I have only been on two club rides when I was a member but I have seen some riders do things with there bikes that as a mechanic make me cringe,probably totally unaware that what they are doing is far from good for there machine, but most often operator abuse is the cause for many problems that do occur.So lets just enjoy a bike that is certianly one of the best I have ever owned and let the experts sort it out.Remember it is a machine and can break but all is fixable in the long run.So how about a little less media type hype and a lot more productive input so as to benefit all owners and riders.This is supposed to be the Hayabusa club and there may be a problem here and maybe not,but one thing I know for sure is if you want someone to help you solve a problem you may have,you don't slag them before you have even given them a chance to do so,as has occured here.The important factor I stress here is that for any problem to be solved the correct and full scenario leading up to the fault or failure must be given not just some hyped up post that benefits no one. Boss Edited by: Boss2 at: 10/3/00 8:33:24 am