Disappointed.

[Shifu]

Yes Shifu its quiting but as you said you are very new to the club and things have become a bit silly i think over the last few years. unfortunatley alot of personal rivalries have caused alot of tension in the club, ive been around since about the same time as Grant back when we were on the other board as with alot of more senior members here. unfortunately and despite valiant efforts by the admin there is alot of BS that goes around behind the scenes via pm's and occasionaly phone calls etc that cause alot of issues within the club. Grant might be sick of reading the same members bitching and complaining about the same things for the last 7-8 years. Also unfortunately there are a few new members(not aimed at you) that see fit to stir the population up and there comes a time when its more stressful for people to stay as a member than to just leave and go about their own business. Personally my role in the club over the last few years has become less and less due to a number of members going on there own political/racial/personal rants and attacks. most of my posts where done in the first few years then slowly that has been reduced as I find myself being more and more agrevated by certain members comments regarding race/religion and life in general and while im all for free speach and personal freedom these people i refer to are blatantly ignorant/racist which is not required on a public forum such as this, you can hate whom ever you choose but there is a place for that and its in your own personal life not on here. Grant im sure has very valid reasons to leave and has absolutely no obligation to explain in detail his reasons to you or any other member of the club especially those calling him a quiter without knowing him.

Dan,

I am not suggesting in any way that Grant owes my or any one an explanation. However from all the posts here it seems to me that we are loosing a good man and a valuable long time club member and all its happening is that everybody saying "soory mate to see you go, all the best for the future" and the crap like that. I only indicated that the proper course of action would be bringing the issues up and sort them up like a man. In every organization there will be some element that will try to spoil everytning for an individual or a group. For whatever reason - racist, ignorants, natzis or just plain dickheads. But that does not mean that we should just all pack up and go home. Lets name then, shame then and get rid of them. Isn't that what we have our Club Rules for? I am new to the club and are not aware of the "behaind the scens" issues but will not stand for such bulshit or the club that lets this sort of thing to be happening to anyone. Am I alone here who thinks that way?