Castrol Magnatec 10/40
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(14-03-2011, 10:12am)Bizket Wrote: Shifu,

I you have a great Passion for oil filters do you sell them....I am not taking the piss, I do like the one you put on your bike in the other thread.
I agree with Pommie when he says "All too hard for me." following the standard service intervals and manufacturer recommendations it easier.

Suifu if you have some reports of the oil analysis you have done on your bike it would be cool to see how the oil degrades over time and wear, you should post some reports up if you can. I agree with you and oil filters play a big part but it is out of context a busa engine is what $4,000 even a whole bike say $15,000 and it is a High RPM, Performance, close tolerance, petrol engine and you are comparing it with a $200,000 Volvo Prime mover that is low RPM Diesel that is designed to do "2.5 million miles" as you say.

I have seen oil analysis testing done on 950 hp 777 CAT dump trucks in mining and that is time consuming and technical and they have base line figures to compare too. And the testing was not about how long they could Keep the oil but to track how wear components in the motor were wearing to closely monitor. From what i understand different components had compounds and materials bonded to them like pistons and main bearings ect that show up on the oil analysis and parts per million rate was tracked over time and compared to a wear indicator chart from the manufacture.

If you had a base line of a oil analysis of fresh oil eg just ran around the engine after a warm up and a few Km and then compared it to oil that has done say 6,000km of road work. and even as another comparison say a trackie that has spent say 20 hours getting flogged around a hot track.

Hats off to you if you can show data results with oil analysis it would make a interesting thread.

Hi Bizket,

I am not in the business of selling oil filters at all. My passion about it comes only from the urge to protect my bike from damage as best as I can. Unfortunately we can not rely on the motor industry to help us in that department, as they do not want to invest into develpment that would ultimately hit their bottom line. The more engine wear, the sonner you will need a new one - more money for them. So why improve filters for. My comparison to the big truck engines was only to illustrate that the modern materials properly lubricated can last a very long time in the engine. And the difference between the 2.5 million miles and 250000 km for the bike is more than just high revs would justify. Of course at the end of the day economics will decide, but that is the big picture. On the small one, I still would like my bike to be OK after 300000km. And I would be happy to pay a bit more for something that would help with it. We all trying to find the best oils and spend a lot of money on the syntetic ones believing that they will ginve us longer service life. The truth is that dirty oil will wear your engine very fast no matter what bottle it comes from. The only real difference is made by the filter. Funny thing is that the best available filters are often much cheaper than the big brand names with a large marketing departments.
I will do, and post my oil analysis on the forum every 5000 km, so we can all (those who are interested that is) see the how the oil changes over time and how long can it last with a proper filtering system. The spectrometric analysis to which you are reffering to on CAT dump tracs, are used to determine the engine wear rates. They use the level of oil contamination by different metals to track abnormalities and hence determine when the engine is close to its death. Planned maintenance rather than unexpected breakdowns saves them heaps of money. I didnt want to go into it here because it is sort of higher level tribology many would be bored with. Pi_freak
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Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Pommie - 03-03-2011, 06:25am
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Pommie - 03-03-2011, 05:17pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Bizket - 04-03-2011, 03:32am
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by steventh - 04-03-2011, 04:08pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Pommie - 04-03-2011, 04:15pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Aussie Steve - 04-03-2011, 07:33pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Shifu - 04-03-2011, 08:30pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Bizket - 05-03-2011, 03:11am
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Pommie - 04-03-2011, 08:50pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Shifu - 04-03-2011, 11:46pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Pommie - 05-03-2011, 09:18am
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Shifu - 11-03-2011, 07:22pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by ducsguts - 05-03-2011, 03:48pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by DAVE01 - 05-03-2011, 04:06pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Throwdown! - 06-03-2011, 05:22pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Pommie - 07-03-2011, 08:10am
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Pommie - 11-03-2011, 08:26pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by steventh - 13-03-2011, 07:46pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Bizket - 14-03-2011, 10:12am
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Shifu - 15-03-2011, 09:30pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Bizket - 16-03-2011, 12:52am
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by Shifu - 16-03-2011, 10:28pm
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by simmo - 14-03-2011, 11:22am
RE: Castrol Magnatec 10/40 - by jamdonut - 17-03-2011, 03:13pm



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