TRE FOR 09 BUSA

[busa]

Can anyone tell me what brand of TRE to buy for a 09 busa and is there any related problems when you fit them as I have heard that they upset the gear indicator, also can you link thme to the sport mode switch?

I all ready have a power commander V on the bike and the bike has been remapped as well as I fitted a full micron 4 into 1 system.

Regards
Busa

[larra]

http://www.boostbysmith.com/highgain.html

[BikerBoy]

I've got a Healtech X-TRE in my GSX650F that works great. Does not upset the gear indicator either.


http://www.healtech-electronics.com/

[fasterfaster]

Can anyone tell me what brand of TRE to buy for a 09 busa and is there any related problems when you fit them as I have heard that they upset the gear indicator, also can you link thme to the sport mode switch?

I all ready have a power commander V on the bike and the bike has been remapped as well as I fitted a full micron 4 into 1 system.

Regards
Busa

Send me your ECU and I'll flash the limiters out of it ............ won't effect any of your other settings. $65 plus postage.
Should have flashed the lot .............. would have saved you heaps of dollars

[busa]

Can anyone tell me what brand of TRE to buy for a 09 busa and is there any related problems when you fit them as I have heard that they upset the gear indicator, also can you link thme to the sport mode switch?

I all ready have a power commander V on the bike and the bike has been remapped as well as I fitted a full micron 4 into 1 system.

Regards
Busa

Send me your ECU and I'll flash the limiters out of it ............ won't effect any of your other settings. $65 plus postage.
Should have flashed the lot .............. would have saved you heaps of dollars

thanks for the feedback everyone.

Pete can you send me the adress to send it to and how long will you need it for.

regards
busa

[Greeny_SA]

Can anyone tell me what brand of TRE to buy for a 09 busa and is there any related problems when you fit them as I have heard that they upset the gear indicator, also can you link thme to the sport mode switch?

I all ready have a power commander V on the bike and the bike has been remapped as well as I fitted a full micron 4 into 1 system.

Regards
Busa

Send me your ECU and I'll flash the limiters out of it ............ won't effect any of your other settings. $65 plus postage.
Should have flashed the lot .............. would have saved you heaps of dollars

thanks for the feedback everyone.

Pete can you send me the adress to send it to and how long will you need it for.

regards
busa

Busa, Power commander's went out with button up boot's .

[GRUNTMAX]

XTRE-Power Box---Good Idea and apart from what some people will tell you, they do work.
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Power Commander V--Good deal, wire run down to the left side of the bike lnto the speed output wire & you can have a fuel map for all 6 gears. Then set up your Powercommander Autotune with WIDEBAND O2 SENSOR (Stock is Narrowband), make a Air Fuel Ratio Map for all 6 gears. 5 gears with GRUNT 6th Gear for highway economy at cruising rpm. Then, if you want to tune it like a swiss clock after your maps are "trained" by the PC Autotune, bung a K Type Thermocouple on each exhaust header and tune every cylinder. 24 fuel maps.
This article from www.maxracesoftware.com may help you understand,
after all, how many bikes have you seen with an O2 Sensor on each exhaust header ?
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When you put your bike on the dyno, they'll only use 1 x O2 Sensor for all 4 x Cylinders so it will be tuned to an AVERAGE of 4 x Cylinders AFR.
Even on The ECU Hacking Forum they'll tell you all 4 x Cylinders have different fuel maps, but hey, you can have Pete do that when he re-flashes your ECU but then again you can do that with your PCV and then again, there's no guarantee that each of your 4 injectors is machined exactly the same.
My K8 had to be trimmed down 5% on #1 Cylinder & up 5% on #4
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1) PCV & Autotune
2) EGT/PCV AFR Tune for Each Cylinder
3) Dyno

PCIII
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PCV & Autotune----Don't knock it.

This post was not meant to upset people, I'm just having another 24hour day brain injury certified nutcase morning.
Cheers

[fasterfaster]

Grunt welcome back mate ................. good to see ops normal.
Now given 4 x EGT gauges will set you back about $1000 , a PCV and module to control the secondaries about $700 and an XTRE at around $245 then another say $300 as a base figure to build a custom map, then an Auto tune at another $250 , gives us a total of around $2500.00 with 6 or 7 after market items fitted to the bike to get what an ECU flash can give you with more features with no added components needing to be fitted for $450 (With custom built fuel map included)

Then factor in that EGT gauges have only any accuracy at "Constant throttle settings" (hence why used extensively in aviation where a constant prop pitch and throttle settings are applied in cruise flight)
In a dollar for dollar comparison NOTHING gets even close to flashing, and thats without even speaking of the other cost savings of around $2000 if one then wants to Eliminate Pair System, Control NOS application, Control an auto shifter, have ability to run seperate FUEL MAPS for different applications and MORE.
Well as they say Grunt talks cheap ............... so hence the challenge ......... bolt on all the goodies and spend your two or three grand on parts and labour and I'll equal your Hp output and performance for $450 GUARANTEED

Flashing isn't good for the VENDOR in the making dollars department but's it's certianly GREAT for the customer
So as said you can either buy and fit 4 x EGT gauges, a PCV an AUTO TUNE add on, a SECONDARY TUNE add on, an XTRE a SHIFTER CONTROLLER then hope they all work ok or just FLASH IT
Flashing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's what you do when you don't have money to waste

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Footnote !
Power commanders do work (I do not question that) ............... Flashing just gives you much more for less dollars spent.

[GRUNTMAX]

WIDEBAND Closed loop AFR Control for all 6 gears with no Dyno ?
Secondary (Top 4 Injector Controller) not required in not big block / stroker motor.
www.thesensorconnection.com $1000 ??? No. Fit em to your Brocks pipes yourself.

[Dan85]

FLASH FLASH FLASH FLASH FLASH FLASH FLASH FLASH FLASH oh wait this isnt the nudity forum by chance is it?

[fasterfaster]

Ok just for the deviates Lets call it ECU re programming then Happy happy

[GRUNTMAX]

Ok just for the deviates Lets call it ECU re programming then Happy happy

Pete,
I reckon you should flash em, ignition maps the lot. (Does it do 3 ignition curves/maps for A, B, & C handlebar map switch settings ?) Then return it to the punter so he can bench flash it himself with the Boost By Smith supplied and hook up his PCV with Zero Map & Wideband O2 Autotune. No motor is "the same". So how much are you providing this sales and service for with bench flashing unit included on return of ECU to the punter ?
I wouldn't bother with a Powercommander Quickshifter because I use a Pingel Easyshifter, much better, finger button up & down only.
NOS--I'd use one of those new NLR jobs if I was a NOS man.
Boost Control---I'd use an NLR AMS-1000 with LP Air/Reg CO loading wastegate.
Ignition Programmer----yeah, I'd have your re-flash job.
Cheers

[CeeJay07]

Geez I'm tired...look at the time.....

[fasterfaster]

Grunt come on mate it's time to move out of the stone age and on with the new age.
A few points
1 / A complete flash .............. oops sorry ECU re program with custom fuel map and an interface unit and loom included would still come in at less cost than a PCV with custom fuel map
2 / I don't offer "post in" fuel mapping for the exact reason you say, all bikes are different. Post in is limiters and restriction only
3 / O2 sensors ................ wideband, narrow band or any other band do not tune motors.

Finally the challenge has been publically offered so I'll just let it sit at that, for as they say "You can lead a horse to water ............ but you can't make it drink"


Bolt on all the goodies and spend your two or three grand on parts and labour and I'll equal your Hp output and performance for $450 GUARANTEED

Note ! Any competant tuner using flashing software will be able to achieve the above

[GRUNTMAX]

If the O2 Sensor is not important, then why, when you've got a bike on the dyno do you have one in the exhaust stack that takes an average Air Fuel Ratio of all 4 Cylinders ????
Torque is more important in the first 4 gears, not top end HP.
With the PCV you can make AFR Maps for all 6 gears, train your fuel map with the Autotune & real road riding, not the dyno. Then trim the AFR on each of the 4 x exhaust headers with the EGT meters & the PCV.
Can you trim all the injector pulse withs up on each of the 4 cylinders with the ECU Flashing Interface Pete ? Would be good.
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08-09 ECU Flashing Interface = US$228 Shipped
ECU Flashing Interface Bench Cable = US$68 Shipped
4 x EGT Meter With Analog Output for Datalogger = US$360
4 x EGT Probes With Compression Fittings = US$200
PCV = US$280.76
Secondary Fuel Rail Contoller Required For Big Block On‌ly = US$212.46
PCV Autotune With Wideband O2 Sensor = US$ 194.96
TOTAL plus a bit of shipping a bit of wire & a switch & a trip to your local exhaust shop who'll weld all 4 compression fittings into your exhaust headers for $50.
= US$ 1,544.18 approx.