good argument but.
If he was normal in other areas I may take that tack also.
Unfortunately you could right a book on all the extreme weird things Michael did.
To me it is obvious he had probs.
Whether it be form his Dad or upbringing I don't know.
Because of all his other episodes the doubt of his innocence of child molestation is harder to pass off as incorrect.
Sorry.
27-06-2009, 02:50pm (This post was last modified: 27-06-2009, 02:53pm by Madmax.)
(27-06-2009, 10:02am)bigjay Wrote: No one can prove beyond doubt he did anything to any child. His one weakness was his vunerability and the parents of that lying sack of shit persuaded his son to lie to get money. There were so many holes in his testimony that the case was closed due to lack of evidence. Yes MJ payed him off. It looks bad because of that, but the case would of dragged on for years if he didnt. If any parent who loved their son or daughter knew that MJ or anyone had violated their child no amount of money would have been sufficient. You would want him locked up and the key thrown away. I'm sick of people who believe one bad thing that a person is accused of but never remember the millions he gave to charities, the humanatarian work he did and the joy he brought to children and adults alike the world over. Burns clinic,hospitals he had built all because he wanted to. All the good he did is Fucken proven, PERIOD!!!! The allegations were never proven PERIOD!!!! I believe and look for the good in people. All the hard asses out there who judge him and are glad his dead, one day someone close to you or someone you admire will pass on. Then see if indeed how you feel if that person is labelled in a bad way. I was always told that if you have got nothing good to say about someone, then say nothing. To all the so called accusers out there, your day will come!!!!
PEACE..........
I believe this issue may well polarise the board.
I say "A dead paedophile is a good paedophile!" as a victim I shout it as loudly as I can. Where was the law when he was having little boys sleep in the same bed as he was. What was in their parents minds when they allowed that to happen???
You say "No one can prove beyond doubt ". You must be a lawyer, they all say that!
I also say he was a true musical mover and shaker who changed music for ever.
Now he is dead, only God can give him what is coming to him, whether that be good because he wasn't a scum sucking paedo fuckwit that the world believes he was, or eternal damnation because he was.
See what I mean by polarise? Men who have dealings with little boys always bring out strong feelings in the community. None of us know what is true with regard to his dealings with little fellas at the end of the day. Only he and they know what really happened.
Max
Good weather, good woman, good road, good bike, good-bye!!
sorry if i hit a nerve Max. I cant understand what you must feel when topics like this are brought up. For me its just sad when comments and judgements are past on facts we believe thru the media. Since when does everything we see and hear become gospel. Im glad i am not a lawyer. Too much lying and deception for me to be good at that job. Yes his life was weird and made very strange decisions. One day we will know the truth on MJ. Until then i wish we could all remember him for what he was famous for. not for what so called journalists lead us to believe.
Again Max my apolgies........
Peace!
If you look back at history and take the likes of James Brown he was a big deal back in the day and the whites didnt like a black dude with heaps of money. As James Browns popularity deminished and he wasnt making money anymore the US Government hit him with a $ 17,000,000 tax bill.
Well that sent him broke and he had to sell all he had to try and pay the tax and even did time in jail but I dont remember what for,So its seems like a similar thing with Jacko if your black and got money they will try and get ya some how and remember M.J. was a big deal and it wasnt just all the money he had. To me its a bit like John Lennon and we know what happened to him.
Anyhow I dont really believe Jackjo was a pedo and there is only one Judge.
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(27-06-2009, 10:02am)bigjay Wrote: No one can prove beyond doubt he did anything to any child. His one weakness was his vunerability and the parents of that lying sack of shit persuaded his son to lie to get money. There were so many holes in his testimony that the case was closed due to lack of evidence. Yes MJ payed him off. It looks bad because of that, but the case would of dragged on for years if he didnt. If any parent who loved their son or daughter knew that MJ or anyone had violated their child no amount of money would have been sufficient. You would want him locked up and the key thrown away. I'm sick of people who believe one bad thing that a person is accused of but never remember the millions he gave to charities, the humanatarian work he did and the joy he brought to children and adults alike the world over. Burns clinic,hospitals he had built all because he wanted to. All the good he did is Fucken proven, PERIOD!!!! The allegations were never proven PERIOD!!!! I believe and look for the good in people. All the hard asses out there who judge him and are glad his dead, one day someone close to you or someone you admire will pass on. Then see if indeed how you feel if that person is labelled in a bad way. I was always told that if you have got nothing good to say about someone, then say nothing. To all the so called accusers out there, your day will come!!!!
PEACE..........
I believe this issue may well polarise the board.
I say "A dead paedophile is a good paedophile!" as a victim I shout it as loudly as I can. Where was the law when he was having little boys sleep in the same bed as he was. What was in their parents minds when they allowed that to happen???
You say "No one can prove beyond doubt ". You must be a lawyer, they all say that!
I also say he was a true musical mover and shaker who changed music for ever.
Now he is dead, only God can give him what is coming to him, whether that be good because he wasn't a scum sucking paedo fuckwit that the world believes he was, or eternal damnation because he was.
See what I mean by polarise? Men who have dealings with little boys always bring out strong feelings in the community. None of us know what is true with regard to his dealings with little fellas at the end of the day. Only he and they know what really happened.
Max
Said like a true fence sitter Max! You don't have the get up and go to say what you really mean. I think that Michael Jackson was nothing short of BRILLIANT !!!!!! I was never in his bedroom so I won't cast
aspersions on issues that I personally have no proof other than sensationalistic media F%#@holes want the easily sucked in to beleive! RIP MJ
R.I.P. Michael Jackson.
Music genious and trend setter extroadinair.
There may never be another both regarded so highly and despised by so many too for his lifestyle.
Unfortunately many people cannot differentiate between love and sex.
Love for children does not necessarily mean love of children.
"If time catches up with you. You're going too slow!"
Regards BUSGO
SRAD told me something years ago after meeting one of his friends.
The guy is a Genius in every sense of the word doing things with Fiberglass you wouldn't believe and having designed things decades ahead of their time.
He had a Corvette in the late 70's with Nitrous 8 way adjustable seats tons of custom body mods and paint it even had what is now called Gator Glass done on it! All done by himself. He built his own boat and airplane and more than one show car. But the guy is a freaking NUT! I mean this guy is nuttier than a squirrel turd! I has been obsessing over an old Girlfriend from College for 40+ years! He thinks the Government spies on him and won't talk in front of the TV or Computer!
SRAD told me at the time " The Difference between Genius and Insanity is a fine line, and this guy wobbles all over it back and forth".
There is no doubt in my mind about this guys brilliance but he's crazy too.
I have since noticed this in a few people and MJ is one of them, a Genius in song and dance, but crazy in his personal life. Many of the things he did are things a sane normal adult would never consider, but in his Musical life he was extraordinary. I'm taking neither side on this, besides I'm much more crushed over the death of Farrah.
To all who say he is a child molester and he should rot in hell, then you should rot in hell with him because the only way you would know would be if you were in the bedroom with him which also makes you accesories after the fact. This forum is full of damn know-it-alls.
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