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What's the point(s)? - Djpete - 23-06-2005 Funny I was just talking to Rev about this last night. Strongly suggest to join Roadsense (Free) as they are trying their best to do something... An email I (David) sent. David Lampkin Lincom Solutions Terry Mulder, I believe the liberal party can come to power in the next state election by basing their campaign entirely on one issue. The simple fact is, that across Australia, and the world, but particularly Victoria the general public is being subjected unfair, unjustified and unsafe road laws, with particular and unjustified focus on speeding. As a very large majority of voters in the state drive a car, implementing road safety policy which doesn't discriminate, and which will reduce the road-toll in a world leading manner will sway the votes of the general public. The fundamental problem with Victoria (and Australian) road policy is the claim that 30-40% of road fatalities are "speed related". The TAC, Vicroads, Victoria police, and current governments regard crashes that happen at speeds that are "inappropriate for the conditions", as speed related. For example if a driver crashes on a wet road, on a corner doing 90 km/hr in a 100 zone in a car with tires and handling not capable of completing the turn, the driver hits a tree, and dies as a result. This incident would be counted in that 30-40% of "speed related" crashes which is used to justify the misguided use of speed cameras, and the reduction of speed limits. My question to you is what good a speed camera can do on that road, set to book drivers doing 100 km/hr when the crash occurred below the posted limit? The next supporting fact for this argument is that the number of crashes which occur above the speed limit is only around 2% this means that government agency's such as the TAC and Victorian police are wasting their time and money on enforcing laws that can only reduce 2% of fatal crashes Obviously focusing on the other 98% would be more effective! Or perhaps they are just doing their job, doing what the current government tells them, and making more unjustified revenue thru speeding fines to keep the current budget balanced. I have repeatedly asked the TAC/Vicroads/state and federal governments to tell me exactly how many how many fatal accidents are over the posted limits, and I get no reply. Most drivers believe that speed cameras are simply a means of raising revenue, this statement is sadly true. Speed cameras were originally designed to be placed at a black spot, where signs warned them of danger and there was a camera present, this has some effect of slowing down the traffic as drivers know the camera is there, and they slow down in the danger area. Unfortunately this is not how cameras are used anymore, cameras are sneakily placed on high-volume roads, and don't reduce the speed of traffic where they are deployed, as it takes a week to receive the fine in the mail. I strongly suggest you visit this website www.roadsense.com.au/ this site contains information, including statistics and information from Australia and international road safety. There are also many suggestions to solve current road problems which should become part of road policy immediately. Speed does not kill, collisions do. Thanks for your time. David Lampkin Lincom Solutions and the response! Dear Mr Lampkin Thank you for your email of 20 June 2005 to Mr Robert Doyle MP, Leader of the Liberal Party and to Mr Terry Mulder MP, Shadow Minister for Transport. Mr Doyle and Mr Mulder note and share your concerns. You make some sensible observations, with which Mr Doyle and Mr Mulder concur. It would be of great assistance if you culled your email significantly and emailed or wrote to the 'Herald Sun', and called 3AW talkback during morning or afternoon weekday sessions. There are many uncommitted voters who need to be regularly reminded that the Bracks Labor Government uses speed cameras as a revenue-raising, rather than road safety tool. Labor has an army of 'spin doctors' who parrot the false Government line - a line that fails to reduce the road toll yet brings in massive amounts of money for Labor's socialist, 'nanny state' ends. We can win this debate - but it is a huge help to have third parties such as yourself assisting to get the message out to the wider community. Kind regards. Edmund Carew Office of Robert Doyle MP Leader of the Liberal Party. Cheers, Pete Z Web World Sound ya horn when going past a manned speed camera. Let's all give them a protest blast! You can make a difference! More Info ???? - Maj750t - 23-06-2005 If the Libs wanted to reduce the "road tax" they would be loud and public , by passing the responsibility to get the message out , to another group eg; roadsense , they can distance themselves after the election and keep on raising revenue via this means. Re: ???? - rocket rod 7777 - 23-06-2005 Thats right,this liberal guy is only agreeing with the writer so as to win points for his side.Do you think if the liberals got in they would curtail the revenue raised by cameras and radars? FAT CHANCE,they are all tarred with the same brush. Phuck its the phantom! Yeah - Djpete - 24-06-2005 I know fellas , understand what you say, but it's at least something...it all adds pressure and gives us some chance. Cheers, Pete Z Web World Sound ya horn when going past a manned speed camera. Let's all give them a protest blast! You can make a difference! More Info |