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newbie questions on Hayabusa? - bikeNut - 11-06-2005
hi all, im looking for a new bike, as just sold my 250, and getting off unrestricted licence.
I have rode friends cbr and r6/ r1 , but i fell in love with the busa back in 99 when i first saw one, unfortunately i cannot test drive one as i havent got my full licence until 08/05, and none of my mates have one, they all have the previous models stated.
I have found one in SA for $15,400 2004 model, 6000kms, just wondering is this a good price? anything to look out for on the bike itself? pros cons of the busa?
its either this or a gsxr600 for $9K or triumph daytona for $11K. but i figure if i get my dream bike straight off i wont waste money on selling a devalused bike down the track.
are they comfortable to ride? service costs/parts costs?
do they suck the juice down being a 1300?
i got quoted $1300 a year for insurance through QBE as im only 26, have rating 1 car licence
any help would be much appreciated before i put a deposit on the bike, hopefully to get it for $14500 cash?
Re: newbie questions on Hayabusa? - CAS3234 - 12-06-2005
DO NOT BUY THE 600! It will take a little to get used to the bigger bike but it will be better in the long run. I hadn't owned a bike for 9 years then i bought a 2000 busa, I still got it, looks different but i still got it. you will love em.
To cheescake or not to cheescake? - ressac - 12-06-2005
If you want to learn how to handle a bike better and want to see improvements in your riding, get the 6. If you want ball tearingly impressive acceleration, unlimited bragging rites, enormous fear factor, AND you want it to be sweet on a crumbly crust, get a busa.
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XOCET
Re: To cheescake or not to cheescake? - Volvi - 12-06-2005
600's can be dangerous too all depends on rider. I believe it was in the UK where learners can actually get a busa but restricted to 250 power, so its not necessarily the size of the bike but its output. If you can act maturely and always ride within your capacity and capabilities I dont see any problem with a busa. Just take it nice and easy for a while you have nothing to prove to anyone even burnoff at lights, remember its the rider that gets one in trouble not the bike. Price sounds excellent especially @14.5. Insurance quote not to bad for your age and if you cant afford the insurance dont get the bike especially for a newbie. Otherwise dont waste your money on continuous upgrade till your dream bike. In short go for it, ride safe and live and enjoy it.
the big cheese - rev 01 - 12-06-2005
From a 250 to a 1300 IS a big jump, too big for some but it can & has been done.
To put it into perspective it's like jumping out of a Volksy into a Ferrari F40. That Hayabusa has more power in ONE cylinder than your average 250 fourstroke has in total.
The key to survival is attitude. A lot of busa riders come to grief because they can't stop it & run off corners. It takes a lot of practice to get your eye in & get your braking points right. Give the bike the respect that it deserves, take a cautious approach & you should be ok.
Re: the big cheese - rocket rod 7777 - 12-06-2005
Quote:A lot of busa riders come to grief because they can't stop it & run off corners.
and we have never seen you over cook it into a corner Rev? Phuck its the phantom!
Re: newbie questions on Hayabusa? - nickmakwell - 12-06-2005
having just come from a BMW 1100S with ONLY 98hp, I found that an intermediate bike, i.e. something between a gutless but okay handling 250 and the awesome - will kill you if not careful - Busa, is not only ideal, but I would recommend anyone with minimal experience do.
I know you want your dream bike - hell, I just bought mine too so I know the feeling, but you would be definitely better off spending that money on a good used 600 (like a RR or even better a F4I0 or even a SV650 - a brilliant bike that will take you sometime to get to the limit off (trust me - I ride with an experienced young fellah on a SV650 - he OWNS me on the twisties and can keep up until his SV runs out of steam at around 220.......)
Get a 600 or the SV first, pay for it (outright) have it for a couple of years, buy a Busa, keep the 600 for track days and Sunday morning mountain squirts.
Dont like that advice? meh. I maybe wrong sometimes, but never incorrect. (or was it the other way around?)
Re: newbie questions on Hayabusa? - BUSGO - 12-06-2005
This is totally a Self Control situation.
You can get into trouble or out of it on a BUSA.
My son (19) has just moved to a full bike licence and even though he is the most cautious rider on the planet, I would not like to see him on a BUSA with only a year's experience.
This question also has a lot to do with your physical size and strength. If the busa is a BIG bike to YOU, maybe you should stick to a nice mid size bike with around the 90 - 120 hp range.
If on the other hand your are quite confident and strong enough to man handle a big bike, then its a matter of self control.
If you take time to get the experience then a mid size bike is a fantastic investment. Otherwise you may end up in over your head.
Rgds BUSGO
Good luck and safe riding at your own pace.
newbie - rev 01 - 12-06-2005
Rocket: If you haven't gone wide on a busa you're not trying or a liar
My last prang was when I went off the GOR on my kwaka turbo. I did my back in hauling it back to the road on my own ( & it's still stuffed)
Re: newbie questions on Hayabusa? - bikeNut - 12-06-2005
thanks all for the replies, much appreciated, i will go in the end of this week to see if they still have it, i left my drool marks on the window today!!.
it does look a big bike to me, but im 6ft 110kg so i should hopefully be able to handle it, i can ride 600s easy enough, on the busa it seems more comfortable and not so "race like" seating/arm/leg postion?
can anyone give me any ideas of running costs? fuel? parts? servicing etc?
Re: newbie questions on Hayabusa? - simmo - 12-06-2005
I'm with you Rev, Cheers Robert
Re: newbie questions on Hayabusa? - BUSGO - 12-06-2005
Sorry BikeNut, we didn't answer all your questions.
Busa is supremely comfortable and smooooooth with great mirrors as well.
700+ Klms a day are a breeze compared to any other sports tourer in the same league and if you are taking a pillion it is the best in its class.
Servicing is pretty cheap compared to the Euro bikes.
Chains, tyres and sprockets last well if you don't lay rubber every where you go.
Expect about 16 ks to the litre around town and up to about 20 on the highway.
Be careful where you park, they seem to attract idiots who can knock them over and low speed damage can be really expensive to repair.
Overall though I'd say the best bang for bucks on the planet.
Rgds BUSGO
Re: newbie questions on Hayabusa? - pan - 12-06-2005
Hi bikenut. I went from learner's bike to Busa.
Only been riding for a year. I'm 35 and sensible. Never smashed a car. Got all my points. I think I'm pretty calm, but ANYONE will be tempted on a Busa at times, and yes, I have done some silly things, and come close, but still haven't come off. Not planning on it either (promised my fellow Busa riders I wouldn't when I bought it)
Busa is comfortabel, guzzles fuel compared to a small bike and feel s heavy, but it's also easy to ride because you have power at low revs...
I'd recommend it, just remember to never lose respect for it.
"sometimes, crime does pay"
Re: newbie questions on Hayabusa? - Xhiler8r - 13-06-2005
bikenut if the one in the shop falls through come and have a look at mine it will be up for sale again during the next bike show pm me if you need any pics or I could just post a teaser for you
Regards Bill
Busa's Rule On The Rest
Re: newbie questions on Hayabusa? - RaZ80 - 14-06-2005
one thing I found with the busa when I got mine was... the feeling of how fast you are going is very miss leading!
You can think your only doing 80 and actually be doing more like 120.... or you could be thinking your doing 120 and doing more like 200!!
Hell first gear at about 9,500RPM is about 110kph so if you gun it second take you to some silly speed... just just think what happends if you peel off a long corner in 3 ~ 4th and give it a bit and then you come to another corner.....
Unless you know ya bike really, really well... you will probly near shat ya pants trying to stop and not run wide