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A Way to Help Yourselves - Haemaglobin - 17-08-2005
www.21stcenturyacademy.co...?af=272388
Hi Guys,
Im not sure of the protocol here and I dont normally bother people with things like this. But Ive been studying this program/ Learning system that is designed to help people not only improve thier lives, but also thier lifestyle.
This is not a scam, not by a long shot. To keep things very basic for now (I can explain more later if you ask), this system delves into different investment strategies. From property, to internet to shares and derivatives and also company setup and taxation.
The system not only caters for monetary gains, but also has many lifestyle teachings from the likes of Anthony Robbins.
The systems shown in the study programs are those used by many of the wealthiest people in Australia and the systems are shown by the very people (in many cases) who help control the finances of some of these wealthy people.
By following the link you are under no obligation. You will have the option to recieve a free E-book to read or a free DVD (will have to pay $7.50 postage on the DVD, but if you are loathe to pay that then let me know).
So far, everyone Ive shown this to has been interested enough to pursue it further.
I just want you guys to know that this is most certainly real, it is in no way a scam and is in no way related to any kind of multi level marketing or other such program.
Like I said before, its not normal for me to make posts like this, but I really feel this program is worth it. I will let you know right now, that if you do purchase the program through my link, I do recieve a commission, but that is not what drives my post here and in fact my partner and I have decided to throw in a bonus e-book that we bought just to show that we are not doing this for the money. The e-book costs us $99 USD to supply...but its bloody brilliant, we think its an important book and thats why we are willing to throw it in for free.
Anyway, here is the link. I know many people dont like to read all my crap, so Ive put the link at the top also for those who just want to go check it out.
www.21stcenturyacademy.co...?af=272388
I am more than happy to recieve feedback on this...good or bad. Let me know what you reckon.
But do know that my partner and I have been doing this for a few months now and are very pleased with the results.
If you read all this, thanks
I really hope we can help some of you to get what or where you want. Edited by: Haemaglobin at: 17/8/05 5:44 pm
Re: A Way to Help Yourselves - 1hotBUSA - 18-08-2005
Got the DVD sent to me by somebody else. The closed door membership idea with the 4 figure membership fee didnt do so well though, the share renting scheme if legal, which it is, could be done by any broker who has the effort to expend.
I have interests internationally, dont know what I want to do in Australia yet, too tax oppressive.
Regards
Graham
1hotBUSA
Strike a blow for freedom...Smash a speed camera!!!
Re: A Way to Help Yourselves - pan - 18-08-2005
Militec
Just ask Kawasuki
Re: A Way to Help Yourselves - Haemaglobin - 19-08-2005
Quote:Got the DVD sent to me by somebody else. The closed door membership idea with the 4 figure membership fee didnt do so well though, the share renting scheme if legal, which it is, could be done by any broker who has the effort to expend.
I dont really understand your reference to the legality of the share renting scheme, it is most certainly legal. It cant actually be done by any broker. In canberra there are only a couple that will deal in options (which is the correct term for share renting). More brokers are coming online to dealing options though and IMHO the more the better. The good thing about the share market and its derivatives is that its win/win, the more people in it, the better it is.
Yes the membership is 4 figures...actually about $3500 I think (but I havent checked recently). Which holds a complete 90 day money back guarantee and which Ive yet to see anyone use.
Its funny how people baulk at that figure. When in reality, Ive made that sum easily in the past two weeks from following some of the suggestions in the course.
If a trusted friend came up to you and said they could change your life, not only your emotional and physical life, but also your financial life and then asked you for $3500 to do it...wouldnt you think that was a small price to pay?
If you have interests overseas thats great. But the options market is available worldwide. The beauty of this system is that its transportable and doesnt require a fixed base.
Also, I did mention in my first post. The course goes into a lot more strategies than just options. There are at least half a dozen options/sharemarket strategies in the course. There are also at least 4 property strategies. Many internet strategies. Info on companies, trusts, taxation, self managed superannuation and how to use them to your advantage (definitely worth a look if you are worried about tax, like how to pay almost none, legally).
I know its easy to discount some things as too good to be true or scams...but Ive always learnt that it is certainly worthwhile checking them out before you do make a judgement.
The hard part is doing this in this medium. I hate it, Id like to be able to tell everyone face to face about this, so that they could see that Im not a scammer or an ignorant fool. I am an honest guy that does give a shit.
I still want to know if there is anyone thats seen the course and can tell me how to make it fail, please do if you read this, let me know. Because in the last 3 months I cannot see it and have yet to find someone that can.
Lastly, this is NOT a get rich quick scheme. You will find ways to make money much faster than normal, but its not gonna happen overnight.
Re: A Way to Help Yourselves - 1hotBUSA - 20-08-2005
Hi there,
At no point did I say the share renting scheme or options was illegal, in fact I said quite the opposite, that it was legal. When I saw the DVD it looked closed shop, but if you look at the DVD it was also made a few years ago.
Please dont get me wrong, I always investigate these things in detail and take a negative stance until the information proves otherwise. This has helped me so far in many ways. My international stance is due to my dual citizenship, and holding interests in the countries that I lived in previously, every time I moved on we started afresh, but retained ownership of various assets, which were expanded upon.
Regards
Graham
1hotBUSA
Strike a blow for freedom...Smash a speed camera!!!
Re: A Way to Help Yourselves - Haemaglobin - 20-08-2005
Quote:At no point did I say the share renting scheme or options was illegal, in fact I said quite the opposite, that it was legal. When I saw the DVD it looked closed shop, but if you look at the DVD it was also made a few years ago.
Please dont get me wrong, I always investigate these things in detail and take a negative stance until the information proves otherwise. This has helped me so far in many ways. My international stance is due to my dual citizenship, and holding interests in the countries that I lived in previously, every time I moved on we started afresh, but retained ownership of various assets, which were expanded upon.
Fair enough, I guess I just didnt understand why the legality was brought up.
I dont really know what you mean by closed shop. There has been a new DVD released, but I havent seen it so I cant comment on it really. But if its anything like the first one then they will give you enough info in it to start investigating yourself about the various ways to expand your portfolio. Of course, they dont give you 1/10th of whats in the course though.
I think its important to always investigate something before discounting it (or even before going with it) and that is also something Jamie McIntyre teaches... Never say yes or no until you have investigated it and understand it.
Your situation sounds interesting. Investing internationally is something Id like to take a look at in the future...maybe sometime we can catch up for a chat? Id love to pick your brains on what you have and how it all holds together while you are out of the country.
I guess I am a bit sensitive on this issue, because I want to help people and its really hard doing this on these forums because I know that a lot of people are probably judging me like they would an AMWAY salesman or something (I know I would have). I guess all I can say is that if you were doing well out of your investments...wouldnt you want to tell your friends how you did it so that they could replicate your success?
Good luck with it mate.
Re: A Way to Help Yourselves - rocket rod 7777 - 20-08-2005
I guess the problem is haemo,that there are so many cons around,people just get so skeptical.Ive seen the multi level marketing thing in various guises and a few of the other "i can make you a millionare" type things and am very suspicious when someone says "hey look at this thing,you cant go wrong".Im not saying the thing you are promoting is,but people tend to back off when they hear talk like that.
My wife and i nearly got sucked into a property investment type senario a few years back through a gentleman call Henry Kaye,does anybody remember him?You pay $13 grand for his course and he teaches you how to be a sucessful property investor,only problem was he was as dodgy as gyddys fuel pump. Luckily i have a friend who is learning to be a solicitor and i ran it buy him before commiting to anything.
Turns out this guy was under close scrutiny from asics and in the months to follow,he was taken to court and found out to have less than perfect business practises.
However there were quite a lot of people that did get into his scheme and did there hard earned $$$$$ cold.
As i said,im not saying that the thing you are promoting is,its just a case of once bitten twice shy!
Phuck its the phantom!Edited by: rocket rod 7777 at: 20/8/05 4:22 pm
Re: A Way to Help Yourselves - 1hotBUSA - 20-08-2005
Haemo,
Please PM me for my e mail address or track me down at the convention and we can talk the game.
Regards
Graham
1hotBUSA
Strike a blow for freedom...Smash a speed camera!!!
Re: A Way to Help Yourselves - Haemaglobin - 22-08-2005
I hear you Rocket and its pretty much what I would have said too.
I dont expect anyone to take me on blind faith with this, all Im asking is to check it out and let me know what you think. You can order a DVD (costs 7.50 P&H) or get the E-book for free, or if you really want the DVD and dont want to pay any money, let me know and Ill send you one.
What do I get out of it? I like people pretty much. One promise (out of 3) that I made to the guy who does this (Jamie McIntyre) was to help others out...another promise was to put 10% of all profits into my favourite charity and my 3rd promise was to buy some shares for my kids so that they could learn.
Re: A Way to Help Yourselves - rev 01 - 23-08-2005
Henry Kaye ?
A bloke I know asked me what I thought about Kaye's seminars, I said sounds too good to be true so prolly is, keep your hands in your pockets, but he insisted on getting involved & done his BIG TIME !
Oh well, it was only money & he could afford the hit anyway