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Drag racing - Turtle - 12-11-2005
Ok guys you have got me a bit keen to have a go. All I need is a few days off and to be in Sydney for a Wednesday nite. And some info, please.
What do I need to bring?
What tyre pressure do you in the back tyre?
How many revs do you have dialled up before you drop the clutch?
Do you change any suspension settings?
Would a 43 tooth back sprocket help?
Will the front end get up a bit too much that I'll soil my leathers?
And any other necessary info that I'll need to know.
I have a 99 model, with full Yoshi 4 into 1 system, Power Commander, Pair Valve removed, Airbox Mod, K&N Filter, Braided brake lines, Billet One Piece clutch mod and Standard Gearing. Thanks guys.
Turtle. <i></i>
Re: Drag racing - simmo - 12-11-2005
Turtle you will love it, get hooked and be back week after week, keep to standard gearing, rego papers, helmet, jacket, long pants, boots, $45 and get ready for a good time, we have a few going out this week but see posts for group EOM ones
Cheers Robert
World Wide CEO
Easyrider Imports
www.easyriderimports.com.au
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Re: Drag racing - Blackzook - 12-11-2005
Turtle,
Firstly if you need somewhere to stay in Syd. I've got spare rooms and am 5 minutes from the creek.
You need to bring licence, boots, gloves, jacket (doesnt have 2 be leather), Rego (just in case rules seem to change all the time), $45.00.
Tyre pressure is dependant on your riding style try a run and if you get wheelspin drop a few pounds. I run 18psi.
Revs again its all up to you, some launch at 5k, 4k, 3k, whatever suits you.
Suspension I'll leave that to the experts to respond. I run my normal street setup but am going to strapped front and dropped rear soon.
With your set up I think standard gearing would be best I have tried 43/16 and 43/17 and find standard gearing the best so far.
Front end up 2 high. Feed the clutch out progressively and that should not be a problem. I'll let those who can run better than a 1.79 - 60 reply to that. My prob seems to be between the brain and the wrist I just cant seem to launch hard enough.
It's all about trial and error and practice.
Good luck mate.
Bruce
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Re: Drag racing - simmo - 12-11-2005
9.05pm twins
Cheers Robert
World Wide CEO
Easyrider Imports
www.easyriderimports.com.au
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Re: Drag racing - Blackzook - 12-11-2005
Bastard you have more fingers than me.
Type faster.
Bruce <i></i>
Re: Drag racing - aBUSa - 12-11-2005
Hey Turtle great to here you are going to give the Drags a try!
This isnt a bad article for the Novice by American Magazine Sport Rider.
www.sportrider.com/features/146_0004_pass/index.html
As for bike setup everyone has different riding styles and abilitites, best idea is to get down to WSID have a chat with guys and have a go!
Shayne <i></i>
Re: Drag racing - pan - 12-11-2005
Hi Turtle. If you're going to make the trip to Sydney, aim for the 30th of November. It'll be a big night and some guys from QLD are coming too...
"sometimes, crime does pay"
Employee of the Year
Easyrider Imports
www.easyriderimports.com.au
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Re: Drag racing - kawasuki - 12-11-2005
Pan your got the job of checking there bags for toads.. Cheers,
Kawasuki<i></i>
Drag Busa's - Fat Busa Racing 1347 - 13-11-2005
This is how I got my best time's :10.000@141.50 and 1.599
60. Dumped front and back, locked up rear shock ass stiff ass
I can, Went back to a 170sec rear boot@15psi ( a small tyre
on a stock rim will give you a better foot print on the track
not real good on the road but works on the strip ) and last
but not least loose some weight ( bike and ? )
Worked for me
Regards Richard and Nina
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Drag Busa's - Blackkat - 13-11-2005
Turtle,
Best to go out with the bike as is and launch like your leaving at set of lights faster than the tin tops.
Start from there and see what you think.
Changing things before you actually try it could be a waste of time and money.
Leonard. <i></i>
Re: 16th Drags - simmo - 13-11-2005
Quote:Pan your got the job of checking there bags for toads..
Cheers,
Kawasuki
but then how are we going to sort Pan from the toads
Who's in for a run this week Wed 16th
Cheers Robert
World Wide CEO
Easyrider Imports
www.easyriderimports.com.au
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Lets do a pass.... - aBUSa - 14-11-2005
The following is an extract of what BirdoPrey from the Suzukihayabusa.org site wrote about how to make a pass.
I found it a great read when I was first starting and I reread it every now and then to remind me of what I am suppose to be doing as I am still very much the student!
One thing I would like to ad to all this though is that I try to do the same sequence from staging to finish line to firstly overcome nerves and secondly to try and evaluate where I can improve.
Hope this helps!!
<b>Lets make a pass....</b>
Make sure the bike is fully warmed up. Not just the coolant temp. My bike picks up 2-3 mph when warm vs the temp guage just starting to read in the middle. I found out by accident. Now, its always fully warm...
I bypass the waterbox all together to keep any water off my tires. I stand up to get my weight off the seat and start spinning the rear. I rock the bike side to side a couple of times and then start easing off the front brake as i ease back into the seat. Kind of a rolling burnout for a 5' or so. Once the tire starts to "grab" (you will feel it) I pull in the clutch and chop the throttle. I used to use the dry hop to guage my launch. I get my butt foreward to the tank and crouch down behind the shield as low as I can and still be able to see. My right hand grabs the throttle high and my right elbow is in the air(makes getting WOT easier). My left hand is on the clutch and left elbow is about level (close to where it will be once i'm moving). The reason I do this is to that my arm does'nt move as i'm trying to modulate the clutch. If my elbow was up, I would prolly drop it on the launch and it might affect my left hand or my "feel" for the clutch. It may not make any difference, but its what I do. I set my rpm's at 3k-4K and hold it steady. My legs are back and almost straight with just my toes touching the ground. My weight is on the bike, not my toes. I ease the clutch out til the bike just starts to wanna move, then I ease it back in just enough to keep it from moving (the clutch is not loaded). This will quicken your reaction times and from what I've found, makes your initial launch a little more aggressive. I quickly let out on the clutch just enough to make the bike jump forward while adding enough throttle to keep the bikes rpm from dropping. I don't mean move quickly, I mean JUMP. I try to bring the front off the ground in about 5' or so. You don't want it snaping off the ground, you want the bike to jump FOREWARD. Now I go up to the line and just barely turn the first light on. Once its on, I pull my shield down (not completely shut, so I can still breath!), get in my launch position, and then set my launch rpm. Once its steady, I ease the clutch out to barely move the bike foreward enough to turn the second light on. I ease the clutch back in enough to keep me still. When the lights come down I let the clutch out quickly and the bike jumps. From there I hang on to the clutch and feed throttle. From watching videos of my, it looks like I'm going WOT, but I'm not. I am getting there quickly though.
If the front is on the ground, your not aggressive enough. I kept trying til I could lift it and then I started to try to control the front (still working on that one!!!). Don't try to let the clutch out too fast or you'll wheelie or bogg. If you bogg, apply more throttle quicker. If the front comes up, don't "pull" the clutch in. Just try to hold it where it is. The front will start to come back down. As it does start adding throttle, don't let out the clutch faster. If you have to let off the throttle because of a wheelie, the pass is blown. Try again.
Eventually you will be able to feel the front as it lifts and you will be able to ease it back down nice and smooth with out hurting your times. I've noticed that most people bogg right when the clutch is let completely out, at the "end of the clutch" so to speak. Think "smooth". When I do it right I don't even realize when the clutch is out til I notice my hand is not even on the clutch lever (its an inch or so off of it.) anymore.
I still think I'm letting the clutch out! Once the clutch is out, I pinn the throttle (if there is any left!). ON my good passes (with the bike strapped and lowered), I don't have the clutch out til way past the 60'. I usually have my feet up at or around the 60' and i'm in full tuck. Once I hit second gear, I slide my butt back to the hump and try my best to "become one" with the bike and I start chanting to the wind, " I'm not here, I'm not here...". Well, I don't really, but you get the idea...
I weigh 178-180 suited. I've tried to shift from 10K on the tach to an indicated 11K(redline). I've not noticed much of a difference. I usually shift at redline.
Keep working with what you have. I've seen too many get frustrated and change something. That leads to more frustration. Everytime i change something, I have to re-learn how to launch.
I hope some of this babbling helps. I'm sure the REAL racers can explain it much better than i and they ride better than i do. I'm still work'n at it.
Birdoprey
9.995 @ 142(1.771 60')Totally stk.
9.482 @ 144.89(1.523 60')Strapped, lowered, 16/40, BMC, Stk cans removed. Stk arm, and everything else
9.251 @ 152.69(1.547 60'). A&J dry shot. All else same as above
Now TURBOCHARGED
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Re: oops - pan - 14-11-2005
Off to the carpark I go...
<i>Edited by: pan at: 16/11/05 1:54 pm
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Re: oops - kawasuki - 14-11-2005
Cant make it Wed 16th my bike is being cleaned for dah show.Have to clean all the bloody glue off that was on the new chain. Cheers,
Kawasuki<i></i>
Re: oops - Blackzook - 14-11-2005
Great post Shane thanks.
Oh you are in sooo much trouble when you get to WSID as I'm sure Pan read it too. He's prolly in a carpark somewhere as we speak Bruce
See here, young man, from Walgett to the sea,
From Conroy’s Gap to Castlereagh, there’s none can ride like me.
I’m good all round at everything, as everybody knows,
Although I’m not the one to talk—I hate a man that blows
<i>Edited by: Blackzook at: 15/11/05 12:27 am
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