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2nd gear Oops - Madmax - 24-08-2010
I had her wide open the other day, in 2nd when she lurched as if falling out of gear and immediately back into gear, got the rear end out of shape as the power came back on immediately. It's only happening in 2nd when I open her up. Any ideas?
Max
RE: 2nd gear Oops - fasterfaster - 24-08-2010
Worn dogs Max .................... nothing a nice undercut on a few gears won't fix. Have another members bike here with the exact same ailment at the moment.
RE: 2nd gear Oops - big kev - 24-08-2010
roughly whats the damage $ wise to get something like whats happen to max's bike fixed pete ??
RE: 2nd gear Oops - fasterfaster - 24-08-2010
Depends a lot Kev on what you find inside, but usually if caught early the gears can be recut and box is in effect better than new, if worn to far then replacement is required and the dollars jump ............. dramatically. So end cost is basically totally dependent on amount of new parts required ................ bent clutch forks ? Gears worn beyond repair ? Shift shafts bent ?
The longer it's left the worse it gets ................ both the problem and the cost
RE: 2nd gear Oops - big kev - 24-08-2010
thats good to know pete thanks heaps , thats good info to know
RE: 2nd gear Oops - Axe - 24-08-2010
Had a sim issue on my '06
Except was in 1,2,3.....
Got the gears undercut and all is sweet.
oh and the turbo too... I figured what the engine outs.... why not!
Cheers Rob!
RE: 2nd gear Oops - TempOzzy - 24-08-2010
Has anyone seen this problem on Gen 2's yet?
I know it was a problem on gen 1's and the Gixxer 1100's, but I thought I read somewhere that on Gen 2's the gears were cut with more rake on the dogs. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this?
Good luck with the repair Max. It's a pretty weird feeling when it does it. My 1100 had the problem (too much time on the back wheel), and when it first slipped I thought I had run over something slippery and broke traction. I didn't have the cash to fix it, so I just kept riding it. The slipping became more frequent, and I eventually stopped riding it when it nearly threw me off whilst powering out of a corner. Sold the bike cheap and made it someone elses problem (told them about it).
RE: 2nd gear Oops - Madmax - 24-08-2010
(24-08-2010, 09:08am)fasterfaster Wrote: Depends a lot Kev on what you find inside, but usually if caught early the gears can be recut and box is in effect better than new, if worn to far then replacement is required and the dollars jump ............. dramatically. So end cost is basically totally dependent on amount of new parts required ................ bent clutch forks ? Gears worn beyond repair ? Shift shafts bent ?
The longer it's left the worse it gets ................ both the problem and the cost
Can I spilt the cases and not dissassemble the top end? I'l like to get the motor out, get the gear box out make repairs and replace them without disturbing the top end?
What do you think?
Thanks for your thoughts mate.
Cheers
RE: 2nd gear Oops - bazman - 24-08-2010
(24-08-2010, 09:08am)fasterfaster Wrote: ....but usually if caught early the gears can be recut and box is in effect better than new, if worn too far then replacement is required and the dollars jump ............. dramatically. So end cost is basically totally dependent on amount of new parts required ................ bent clutch forks ? Gears worn beyond repair ? Shift shafts bent ?
The longer it's left the worse it gets ................ both the problem and the cost
Max,
my (dearly departed) best mate had this same prob with 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears on his 750 (pop-up h/light) Katana. He really used to flog the absolute crap outta it, especially when stone-cold (not in any way suggesting that your prob has been caused the same way - I know your bike is your princess
) and he left it a long time before he got round to assessing.....and by that time, like Pete says, the damage bill was 
!A year or so later, the dealer that my mate originally bought it off that ALSO did ALL the repair work, wouldn't even take the bike as a trade-in, knowing all the punishment that my mate regularly gave it!
IMHO, try to get it checked out ASAP, to save yourself an even BIGGER repair bill later!
Pete.....very, very great advice, as usual!!!
(....i wish you were my big brother, Pete...coz then I'd have access to your wise words and know-how 24/7, 365)!
RE: 2nd gear Oops - Louwai - 24-08-2010
That's the process Max. It's my bike that pete has ATM.
He only received it last night, so he hasn't checked it out yet.
With that, thanks heaps to the boys for taking it up on the trailer for me. Greatly appreciated.
B
RE: 2nd gear Oops - Madmax - 24-08-2010
(24-08-2010, 12:57pm)Louwai Wrote: That's the process Max. It's my bike that pete has ATM.
He only received it last night, so he hasn't checked it out yet.
With that, thanks heaps to the boys for taking it up on the trailer for me. Greatly appreciated.
B
Pete is an excellent wrench mate, your bike is in good hands.
RE: 2nd gear Oops - busa666 - 24-08-2010
(24-08-2010, 12:57pm)Louwai Wrote: That's the process Max. It's my bike that pete has ATM.
He only received it last night, so he hasn't checked it out yet.
With that, thanks heaps to the boys for taking it up on the trailer for me. Greatly appreciated.
B
your welcome mate
RE: 2nd gear Oops - Rainbow7 - 24-08-2010
(24-08-2010, 09:08am)fasterfaster Wrote: Depends a lot Kev on what you find inside, but usually if caught early the gears can be recut and box is in effect better than new, if worn to far then replacement is required and the dollars jump ............. dramatically. So end cost is basically totally dependent on amount of new parts required ................ bent clutch forks ? Gears worn beyond repair ? Shift shafts bent ?
The longer it's left the worse it gets ................ both the problem and the cost
So, assuming it's caught early, how much does it cost to have the gears re-cut?
RE: 2nd gear Oops - Bill Gaheer - 25-08-2010
(24-08-2010, 12:52pm)bazman Wrote: (....i wish you were my big brother, Pete...coz then I'd have access to your wise words and know-how 24/7, 365)!
+1
RE: 2nd gear Oops - fasterfaster - 25-08-2010
Cost to undercut depends on how much machining required, how many gears and also who you get to do it ?