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Rules For Moderators - BLACKZOOK - 14-05-2009
Rules for Moderators
I know this was discussed a short while ago but I believe that it needs to be seriously looked at now.
A while ago we had issues on the forum and moderators were needed to clean the place up. This was the right decision at the time and worked well; moderators were impartial and censored those that needed censorship. The forum is a better place now than it was then.
In my opinion the problem we have now is that there are no rules for moderators and one mod in particular needs to be pulled back into line.
Things I have seen include.
1. Heavy involvement in inappropriate threads. I have no problem with these threads but don’t think it appropriate for a moderator to be a main player in them, or to be openly hostile to those who critic them.
2. Deletion of posts or even entire threads without consultation. There are posts and threads that need to be deleted (probably some of mine included) however an explanation must be given as to why.
3. Impartiality - a moderator must be impartial, not favour anyone and not criticise or moderate something just because they don’t believe in it.
4. Humour - This is probably my biggest criticism. All moderators must have a sense of humour, expect to be ribbed and teased. They cannot take themselves too seriously and be thin skinned when ribbed. You are not a forum GOD.
In my opinion we need moderators.
They need to operate to a defined set of rules
They must be accountable for their actions.
They must be light not draconian in their approach.
This is not a personal vendetta. I see a problem and am trying to help find a solution.
A quick search of the net returned a heap of sites that set out rules for moderators, why don’t we look at these and agree on a set of rules that suit our needs.
RE: Rules For Moderators - BLACKZOOK - 14-05-2009
Volvi - would you please personally moderate this thread and remove anything not directly related to this discussion.
RE: Rules For Moderators - ROD - 14-05-2009
Bruce you have some good thoughts there i personly think mods or admins should only need to explain them self to the party it affects i for one if delete something i will contact that person as i did last night when i removed a avatar . i contacted the person involved and said that if he felt it was a harsh decision that i would be happy to put to other admins sometimes people are just pissed because they missed a bit of action .
admins on our site dont need to be voted in wich is good but personaly i would stand down if enough people wanted me to all admins have been with this forum for many years
Volvi 1999
Heidi 1999
Me 2001
pete 2003
Ray 2003
so i hope i can speak for all when i say we only have the good of the club in mind
So if any one has some good thoughts please put them forward but dont make it personal
RE: Rules For Moderators - BLACKZOOK - 14-05-2009
Agreed Rod, hopefully other members that have issues with mods could post here and have those issues dealt with, if a trend develops then action should be taken.
Regardless I think we need rules for moderators.
Hopefully this does not degenerate into a shit fight or get filled with brainless comments supporting mates whatever. Thats why I asked Volvi to personally mod this and remove anything not relavent and constructive.
What do board members think about rules for moderators.
RE: Rules For Moderators - steventh - 14-05-2009
Why more rules?
If a particular moderator is not doing the job appropriately (applying the Forum rules) then aggitate to have him / her reomoved.
Perhaps the simplest solution is for peer review amongst the moderators who if they agree with the complaint can either "educate" the offending moderator or remove the moderator.
Cheers
Steven
RE: Rules For Moderators - Volvi - 14-05-2009
Bruce - You know I dont have any problem with you or another that I am equally friends with allbeit governed by distance of states. I am not sure I understand why this is being rehashed once again. If an administrator clearly violated any rule I surely would like to hear of it. But if he/she is just doing there job as administrator why does this subject keep raising its head? Could it be beacause its a personal agenda? Or such loathing of a particular administrator that no matter what he does he/she will always face accusations?
Generally speaking I am not a "rule" person. Im no stickler for rules, in fact Im a rebel. I have tried to keep this forum as free as possible with very little censoreship and rules at all. On some rare occasions though it is necessary.
The Forum "rules" have beeen clearly stated and accepted by each and everyone that signs up. Please show me where this may have been violated:
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If a member breaks the rules as in first paragraph then the admins are authorised to act. If an admin breaks the above rules I know members cant edit or delete his/her posts but you can protest or register a complaint to me and if there are grounds I will act upon it.
So far all I have heard are accusations against an admin and without substance. Give me facts that an admin is transgressing and I will be obliged to follow it through. And I dont play 'favouritism'. Busgo, Rod and Heidi are no more and no less friends then any others here yourself included.
And i will moderate this thread and will delete anything not on topic. On principle I am against having this thread as the last one. But in order to be fair and open will keep it open as long as its constructive and doesnt flair up with 'flames' and denigrate the good name of this club.
RE: Rules For Moderators - Madmax - 14-05-2009
I agree with Bruce. I do hold one of the Mods in contempt I'm afraid, I wear my heart on my sleeve. If there are rules that hold the operators on this forum to account, there needs to be rules and equitable moderation of the mods.
I understand one of the Mods has been getting shit from at least one of the others. That's not right and it's not fair.
I'm with Bruce. I've been a member for more than a little while and hold no favouratism, unlike others. I believe we need to have this say.
Max
RE: Rules For Moderators - pan - 14-05-2009
BUSA-RO Wrote:all admins have been with this forum for many years
Volvi 1999
Heidi 1999
Me 2001
pete 2003
Ray 2003
so i hope i can speak for all when i say we only have the good of the club in mind
So if any one has some good thoughts please put them forward but dont make it personal
Just for the record, I joined the "old" Club in November 2004, as did Ray, so he couldn't have been an Admin back in 2003. I thought You and Ray only became Admins shortly after or shortly before the "new" Club was formed...?
Weren't you?
RE: Rules For Moderators - kawasuki - 14-05-2009
"By registering on this discussion system you agree that you will not post any material which is knowingly false, inaccurate, abusive, hateful, harassing, sexually orientated, threatening or invasive of a person's privacy, or any other material which may violate any applicable laws."
IF THE ABOVE IS THE RULE, FARK WE DARE NOT EVEN DISCUSS THE WORLDS ISSUES "ON THIS FORUM"\
Because there is only so much u can talk about bikes and there issues.
It should be as Bruce has mentioned, and we should be able to stone Busgo occasionally,, maybe twice a year..
RE: Rules For Moderators - Ozboc - 14-05-2009
I have seen these kind of issues ( in relation to Moderators and admins) destroy forums
don't take it so seriously , unless your making a living from this web page you need to relax a little , being an admin does not mean you have to be a NETcop
I like this forum because its down to earth , everyone of us can be politically incorrect at any time , its who we are - hey to many we are bad people ( bike riders) If we were to live in a perfect world and keep EVERYONE happy , this forum would be a Blank white page.
Lets just agree to disagree.
Busaboc
P.s sorry for rant -- had 1 too many bourbons :) - please don't edit that admins :)
RE: Rules For Moderators - ROD - 14-05-2009
pan Wrote:BUSA-RO Wrote:all admins have been with this forum for many years
Volvi 1999
Heidi 1999
Me 2001
pete 2003
Ray 2003
so i hope i can speak for all when i say we only have the good of the club in mind
So if any one has some good thoughts please put them forward but dont make it personal
Just for the record, I joined the "old" Club in November 2004, as did Ray, so he couldn't have been an Admin back in 2003. I thought You and Ray only became Admins shortly after or shortly before the "new" Club was formed...?
Pan i dont think i have said Ray and i were admins back in 2003 and nor was Heidi admin back in 1999
RE: Rules For Moderators - SteveV - 14-05-2009
Yeah this is all getting a bit too bloody serious, as far as Im concerned the moderators on this site are already moderate as are 99.9% of the posts. I wouldnt have deleted anything I've seen on this forum so far but considering so few posts have been deleted I dont really care.
If the ideas presented in those posts are so bloody important to those that wrote them they can post them again in a way that wont result in tham being deleted.
But lets not all agree to anything, thats the end of the conversation, I like argument, especially an intelligent well presented one that opens my eyes and changes my mind.
RE: Rules For Moderators - bioDog - 14-05-2009
I reckon the moderators do a great job.
RE: Rules For Moderators - TempOzzy - 14-05-2009
bioDog Wrote:I reckon the moderators do a great job.
I couldn't agree more.
I don't think any moderation rules are required. There are enough moderators to ensure that the forum isn't 'controlled' by any particular individual.
The moderators don't have an enviable job, and threads like this must make some of them ask themselves "Why do I bother?"
Lets get back to talking Bikes and Bullshit.
RE: Rules For Moderators - BLACKZOOK - 14-05-2009
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