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superbike school - Heidi1 - 31-07-2003
AND you get to meet the gorgeous Steve Brouggy (Brouggy-One-Kenobie). Worth the price for that alone.
HEIDI xxx
Re: superbike school - peter altas - 31-07-2003
I'll just stick to the riding....
Peter Altas
BUSA-1
Rocketman - peter altas - 31-07-2003
That's one cool avitar you've got there Rocketman.
Wouldn't happen to have it in a larger image would you?
Peter Altas
BUSA-1
Re: Rocketman - rocket rod 7777 - 31-07-2003
There you go peter!
Re; ROCKETMAN - ressac - 01-08-2003
Is that indicative of you riding style rocket?
Re: Re; ROCKETMAN - peter altas - 01-08-2003
Thanks for that.
Peter Altas
BUSA-1
12 Oct Superbike School - ressac - 04-08-2003
Peter,
I booked in on 12 Oct as well using the web site, but they haven't got back to me to confirm (and pay). If I'm not too late I'll meet you there. (i'll be the guy disproving the record books that busa is fastest prod bike)
Travis.
Re: 12 Oct Superbike School - peter altas - 07-08-2003
I'm the guy on the black busa who can't ride with the spidi leather suit. At least I'll look like I can ride !
They're office is closed during winter and they're only there once a week. Be patient.
Peter Altas
BUSA-1
Re: 12 Oct Superbike School - ressac - 06-10-2003
Peter,
You still going this weekend. I've lost all the details, was wondering if you can help me out with timings and whether they provide food, drink, fuel?
Travis.
Back end wobbles - ressac - 08-04-2004
A question for those who know their shit:
The last couple of rides I've had have brought back an old feeling which I would like some clarity on. It occurs usually on the apex of a corner, maybe just before and continues through the corner with the throttle cracked on. Normally over a bumpy corner (not necessarily mega bumpy), the rear end seems to wallow around a lot. It's not just up and down but seems to be around and around. I know this is affecting my traction!
I also know it will be a suspension issue but is it also a rider issue? I was wondering if others get this regardless of suspension setting (ie. some corners on the street will do that)? Or, is there a fix for all corners? Can someone go through the practical mechanics of it please. -385-
XOCET
Re: Back end wobbles - bigshowbusa - 08-04-2004
I don't know shit, but b4 you mess with suspension, check everything else is above aboard...ie everything in the back end is tight, tyre pressure is at least 38psi etc etc. If all good you could up the rebound but do that last...
You could also have a POS rear tyre...you were saying Diablo are crap? I tend to agree, but they are for sure one of the most stable tyres out there.
Rear end wallowing - 1hotRF - 08-04-2004
Hey Ressac. I've experienced the same thing with my bike a while back and found that it was all related to the rear shock. Do what bigshow said first, these are common sense checks that you should always do if you have a handling issue.
If it's none of those, start off by checking your static sag for the rear of the bike. The difference between fully topped out and bikes own weight on the shock should be about 10mm. If it isn't, adjust the preload adjuster to achieve this (Nut on top of the spring). Once this is set it's a case of forget about it. I found that I had about 25mm sag with the adjuster fully down, which meant the spring was shagged. If you have to do this, regas whilst the shock is out.
As you are exiting a corner, under power, the rear of the bike will tend to squat. This, if excessive can cause the rear to start squirming all over the place. I usually then adjusted my compression setting to stop the bike squatting too much. If rebound is set correctly the bike will return smoothly. If it is wound in too much the bike will pump down on the suspension, not a good look, and if it's not set firm enough you'll be the next man in space.
Just to finish off, if the front end wants to run wide all the time, use more throttle, and increase rebound a click or so at a time. Increasing rebound reduces the rate at which the front forks return to their normal position, which in a corner increases steering head angle, which improves the rate at which the bike turns in.
Well, that's my 10c worth, mostly learned from experience, but I'm happy to be corrected by any suspension gurus out there. I've got a road and a track setting for my bike, and it handles bloody well IMHO
Graham
1hotRF
Re: Rear end wallowing - Scott W - 08-04-2004
Both comments above are good...but my suggestion would be (after checking the condition and pressure in your rear tyre) to stiffen/harden your rear rebound damping slightly (maybe a click or two) and see how that effects it.
What you describe can be caused by (amongst other things) the rear suspension snaping back too quickly into its uncompressed state. Stiffening (or increasing) the rebound damping has the effect of not allowing the suspension to return as quickly from its compresssed state into its umcompressed state.
I don't really know that much about suspension, but I think a couple of good things to follow are:
1. Only ever adjust one thing at a time and then ride to see what the result is that you notice.
2. Keep notes with all the suspensions settings that you have tried and a comment on what you noticed.
Hey ressac, you know if you were going tomorrow you would be able to ask the suspension experts that will be down there to give people advise just like that!
Re: Rear end wallowing - GDYUP - 08-04-2004
If you had payed attention to the Sunday Sermen by the Anoited Rev you would not be asking this question.
The quick cure all to the wallowing has been covered and you knew better.................
Don't bother with all the checks (Which you wouldn't do anyway) grab your visa card and ....................
wallowing in it - rev 01 - 08-04-2004
What's a wallow or two to a trained soldier ? all part of the challenge Besides, haven't had a wallow now for 1,542 km's
& anyway, when it was, it was predictable & easy to compensate for, unlike some of the flexi framed shit boxes I've had previously
You want wallow? find yourself a Kawasaki H1 & wallow your way to hospital