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Re: Yuku About F%^&ing time - glen66 - 12-12-2006
What the hell are you guys talking about? Don't make me bring out the bunny with the pancake.
Re: Yuku About F%^&ing time - Djpete - 12-12-2006
shutup Glenn...
Yeah you could be right there Volvi because stupid Ezboard owns the data but once we move it to another server we will have the data.
We could have maybe you or someone get a data backup every 6 mths or so for safety.
And say it went on my server and I got run over by a ....mmm....4wd say.
Well you would still have the data so at worst you would find another server...easy...nothing lost... Cheers,
Pete
Z Web World
Mobile Dj, Web Design,Photography, Bullshit Artist!
"I don't want a pickle,
I just wanna ride my motorsickle."
Arlo Guthrie 1968
Huh...? - Throwdown - 12-12-2006
Guys, guys speak English!
Re: Huh...? - Djpete - 12-12-2006
Come on Throwdown.....
4 W D
EVERYONE on this Board knows THAT word.
Cheers,
Pete
Z Web World
Mobile Dj, Web Design,Photography, Bullshit Artist!
"I don't want a pickle,
I just wanna ride my motorsickle."
Arlo Guthrie 1968
Re: Huh...? - Maggot1300 - 12-12-2006
thats not a word Pete its an abreviation of profanity.
Re: Huh...? - RaZ80 - 12-12-2006
voli - I am sure they would give us a dump that we could sux in to an sql db.
backups are simple enough - do an at sche for a db dump & back up the dump ;)
btw - its all English - just technical crap lol "Busa riders always count in three's.... 100, 200, 300"
Re: Yuku About F%^&ing time - AzaVic - 12-12-2006
Vbulletin is good.. Would cost about $300 but i dont know about hosting.
Who cares about old posts.. I wasnt around so they dont matter.
Ever thought of getting some nerds from here to write our own club page, that way we can post events that can only be seen with logins etc... special areas for people who are signed up members as apposed to the people that just hang around... that way you will get less of unwatneds turn up to ride days, i.e. cars with flashing lights... of course there is work involved but perhaps it could start, keeping a forum for general posting to begin with but move from there.
Just a thought
Re: Yuku About F%^&ing time - AzaVic - 13-12-2006
Surely one of us is smart enough to do something with some admin pages to put together industry related adds, admin pages for putting up events, photos, trip reports etc..
Re: Yuku About F%^&ing time - HAYABUSA ROD - 13-12-2006
Quote:Who cares about old posts.. I wasnt around so they dont matter.
ithink you may find a lot of people that care you may of been only on this board for a few months but i have been linked to this board from 2000 under 2 names as i still cant find my first login detailes and you have to think of the people that set this site up Volvi ect.
And you are never going to stop police from looking at bike sites for rides clubs like Hangmore you need to pay fees per year and im sure the police still have a fully paid up member to watch what is going on
My main ? is why are we trying to fix something that is not broken or is it costing to much to run ,running out of space or just want to keep up with the jones. THE WARRIOR
REGARDS ROD
kangaroos1996@msn.com
Re: Yuku About F%^&ing time - demeester - 13-12-2006
OK, so here's the deal... (Rod has just said this, in a very concise way, but here is my expanded version...)
We have frequently had people come along in the past and say "let's do this and that!" and 6 weeks later, or 2 years later, or whatever, they have gone.
We have avoided, and wish to avoid, going with anything that relies on any given member. This is why Volvi said it has to be independent - this is why we started with ezboard.
Also, yes, someone could do all those things, and set everything up, and do all the things, and then, a few months down the track, they get slack with it because it becomes yet another unrecognised chore... or they move on, and nobody wants to take over... so then we are left with more tasks that have to be done, and have to find someone to do it.
Or the offers of free hosting disappear with someone's change of bike... (and I have to say, we have been lucky with Peter Lee, who rarely if ever, comes in here, yet still does the main club pages for little or no recognition, as well as "Hellman" Chris, who provides the redirection from "www.ozbusa.com" to these pages, but rarely appears here any more).
I am not adverse to change, but we have survived, and even thrived, in the current format, with almost no work or effort... I don't object to checking out Yuku, as I agree there are short comings here, but I don't wanna put a f*** load of time and effort in to switching to something else, and then have to field all the "but this new one doesn't let me do ..." shit, or "the old one never did..."
We did try private hosted boards, once. Early, it had everything that the public boards had, but then new features were added to the public boards, and soon we felt we were languishing. Another issue is that ezboard, despite its shortcomings, has remained reasonably stable, and has had a lot less down time than a lot of privately hosted boards that I visit. Also, with almost zero effort on our part, this continues to operate reasonably and be seen and be found...
One of the reasons we didn't jump on to Yuku early is that we don't have to be pioneers when we don't need to - if it's all stable now, it may be time to switch, but we don't have to be beta testers. It would be good to get integrated photo hosting, for example, and piss off having to pre-load in to photo bucket or whatever...
So, let's discuss where we can go, what all the options are, consider the benefits and disadvantages, get costings, etc, but please, let's not be too hasty to change cause we may end up f*&^ing up 6 years worth of successful board hosting just because we want one or two new features.... As a wise man once said, if it ain't broke, don't f*** with it...
Re: Yuku About F%^&ing time - AzaVic - 13-12-2006
I know you guys have been around for a while. I'm not wanting to step on toes, just chucked some options in the ring because the topic come up.
Just joking about the posts Rod :-) Dont make me give you a big hug at coffee night cause so many boys all dressed in leather down Fitzroy street is bad enough already.
My personal thoughts were along the line of a few nicely presented club pages without losing the current forum. The forum is where we have informal chat and a bit of fun and thats not something you want to lose. It all depends on whether the club is interested in marketing self as a club or remaining an internet forum..
My point is really about encouraging the use of club talents where available.
Edited by: AzaVic at: 13/12/06 9:04
Re: Pros and cons of new Board - Djpete - 13-12-2006
The New...
Set up hosting with Webcity...
hosting.webcity.com.au/
$72 per yr
Set up domain name if wanted...$12.75 per yr for .com
New Forum FREE
Upload images from desktop...yes
New design...yes
No more ads...yes
Keep our own data and never lose it again like a few yrs back...yes
Maintainece exactly the same as now...no extra work.
All this can be setup within days.
Example forum here www.ladybirdlounge.com/forum/
This is just one brand...
Or stay as we are...
Pay $90 per yr (thereabouts)
No control over our own data.
If there is another crash we could lose thousands of posts like a few yrs back.
Have ads (Yes we still get them)
Have Board with not many features and fixed design/layout.
E.g no spell check, no direct image upload, features not working properly.terrible searching software etc etc.
For me the main problem is the control of data.
So much history was lost when we had the crash a few yrs ago.
This time bomb is always ticking as long as we stay with Ezboard.
As we post more and our history builds up we have the chance of losing it all and having to almost start again.
Have a look through old posts here and you will get thousands that are dead links...that's because of the crash.
Hangmore has had crashes and within a day they have all there data back up because they own it and have a backup.
Good model for a forum although way too dark for me
hangmore.end0.net/forum/i...ion=recent
And the other main prob is the searching software.
Try searching for a thread.
It's a joke, and if you do finally find something it is a dead thread because of the crash.
This Board was primarily setup as a mechanical/tips/information reference.
How can it be with a shite search facility and dead threads?
Do we make the most of the enthusiasiam and offers of help we have at the moment or keep with the old system?
Once it is all set up anyone can control it as long as they have the login details just like Ezboard at the mo.
It is up to you the jury to make your decision...
Sorry wrong line...
Cheers,
Pete
Z Web World
Mobile Dj, Web Design,Photography, Bullshit Artist!
"I don't want a pickle,
I just wanna ride my motorsickle."
Arlo Guthrie 1968Edited by: Djpete at: 13/12/06 9:03
Re: Pros and cons of new Board - AzaVic - 13-12-2006
An example of a well setup vbulletin forum is at www.ausjeepoffroad.com if anyone is interested.
Re: Pros and cons of new Board - m8ee - 13-12-2006
I am happy to go with whatever you boffins want. I think that whatever you guys decide is going to take up the least of your time to run, and remain reliable is the go.
You nerds that do all the work and run the site should have a vote and stick with the result, the rest of us should shut the f__k up and do as we are friggin told, as we are not the poor bastards that have to stay up all night fixing stuff, or deal with all whinging in the end.
Quite simple really. Chopper says "Harden the f*** up Australia"
Re: Pros and cons of new Board - Volvi - 13-12-2006
couple of points.
1. I think we pay a hell of alot more then $90 a yr for current setup, Richard plz advise.
2. in the end were about 25 regular posters am I wrong there? not like the us board with hundreds, so is a change warranted?
3. theres much truth to what DJ says about having full control and not at anyone elses mercy etc. just a pity losing 6 yrs worth of data but perhaps a bit of copy and paste on relavant stuff cud work. the search on this site is all but non existant and a joke.
I dont mind a change but we have to abide by the long term view in securing it at least 10 yrs down the line not for us but future interest.
theres no harm in discussing this issue and presenting ones opinions.